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2015 MLB Draft thread Pirates pick 19th, 32nd Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   Trey_Beamon 

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 04:57 AM

Amazing how draft day has changed from the biggest day of the Pirates' season to, well, just another day.

This year, the Bucs pick 19th overall, 32nd (compensation for losing Russ) and 62 in the second round. They have $7,392,200 to spend in their bonus pool and here are the allotments for the team's first 10 selections:

1st, pick 19 $2,273,800
1st, pick 32, $1,855,000
2nd, pick 62, $994,800
3rd, pick 96, $592,700
4th, pick 127, $439,400
5th, pick 157, $329,100
6th, pick 187, $246,500
7th, pick 217, $184,800
8th, pick 247, $168,800
9th, pick 277, $157,600
10th, pick 307, $149,700


Based on the mocks I've read, the Pirates are likely targeting prep pitching (and possibly the two players below), though obviously this is all contingent on what teams ahead of them do. Whatever the case, this looks like a draft where there's not a huge difference in pick No. 19 and most of the top 10, which is considered the weakest in years.

http://www.baseballa.../draft-preview/





Also, will Schnoah make an appearance today? That is the most important question on the board right now.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 07:15 AM

I say take the risk on Kolby Allard if he's available.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 07:46 AM

I'd prefer Brady Aiken over Kolby Allard.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 09:15 AM

They can take that 32nd pick money and use most of it for their first pick can't they? Like they take a high upside guy 19 then a college senior 32 and can overpay at 19?
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 10:52 AM

View PostBadAndy79, on 08 June 2015 - 07:46 AM, said:

I'd prefer Brady Aiken over Kolby Allard.

yep, I would too.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:11 PM

I missed this and assumed Aiken's medical condition was the same as anyone rehabbing from TJ surgery. Uh, maybe not:

His recovery from Tommy John surgery is rumored to be far from routine, because of the physiological abnormality of his elbow.

http://www.fangraphs...s-still-cloudy/
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:14 PM

Whatever happened to the talk of them drafting a bat? I figure Daz Cameron or Kyle tucker will be long gone, but I'd still rather have Cornelius Randolph than a high school pitcher or a questionable Brady Aiken.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:23 PM

View PostTrey_Beamon, on 08 June 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

I missed this and assumed Aiken's medical condition was the same as anyone rehabbing from TJ surgery. Uh, maybe not:

His recovery from Tommy John surgery is rumored to be far from routine, because of the physiological abnormality of his elbow.

http://www.fangraphs...s-still-cloudy/


Yeah count me out on an abnormal elbow.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:24 PM

View PostPantsless Jose Lind, on 08 June 2015 - 12:14 PM, said:

Whatever happened to the talk of them drafting a bat? I figure Daz Cameron or Kyle tucker will be long gone, but I'd still rather have Cornelius Randolph than a high school pitcher or a questionable Brady Aiken.


John Sickels, FWIW, had Randolph to the Pirates in his latest mock based on "persistent rumors" of the Pirates' interest. Wouldn't be a bad pick ... he has a quick bat.

http://m.mlb.com/pit...ph-hs-shortstop
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 01:42 PM

View PostTrey_Beamon, on 08 June 2015 - 12:24 PM, said:

John Sickels, FWIW, had Randolph to the Pirates in his latest mock based on "persistent rumors" of the Pirates' interest. Wouldn't be a bad pick ... he has a quick bat.

http://m.mlb.com/pit...ph-hs-shortstop

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 7m7 minutes ago

Funny thing about draft day: Now word is Cornelius Randolph's bonus demands haven't come down. HS kids do have leverage to stay on big asks.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 01:49 PM

Brian McElhinny ‏@rtjr
Notable past #19 pick: Michael Wacha, Shelby Miller, Andrew Cashner, James Loney, Alex Rios. Last time Pirates picked 19th: Sean Burnett

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Pirates have been allotted $7,392,200 to spend on the draft, which ranks 11th. http://www.baseballa...-signing-pools/
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 01:53 PM

Kiley McDaniel has Aiken at 19 in his last mock.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 02:04 PM

Here's an older article that discusses the relative success rates of high school v college pitchers...still would shy away from high school arms...

http://bleacherrepor...irst-round-risk
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 02:17 PM

colby is 16. Even if he flounders for 5 years, he's a pirate at 21.

Go youth.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 05:44 PM

What time does this long drawn out nonsensical production begin?
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 06:16 PM

Would Dansby Swanson even be a top 10 pick in a good draft?

I mean, he's a talented guy but there is no "wow" factor there.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 06:20 PM

View PostTrey_Beamon, on 08 June 2015 - 06:16 PM, said:

Would Dansby Swanson even be a top 10 pick in a good draft?

I mean, he's a talented guy but there is no "wow" factor there.


I saw a site that said an ideal comparison for Swanson was Ben Zobrist. So..meh.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 06:25 PM

View PostPantsless Jose Lind, on 08 June 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:

I saw a site that said an ideal comparison for Swanson was Ben Zobrist. So..meh.

I saw a site that said an ideal comparison for Andrew McCutchen was Marquis Grissom
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 06:27 PM

Ben Zobrist was a damn good baseball player for a few years:

OPS+ in full seasons:

2009- 149
2010- 96
2011-131
2012-137
2013- 112
2014- 114
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 06:28 PM

Yeah Ben Zobrist is decent. Do you think Ben Zobrist has been top of the draft class decent?
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