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#261 User is offline   NCBuccofan 

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Posted Yesterday, 12:39 PM

View PostPSU4Lyfe, on 21 July 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

Yeah I just don't see how Newman has a ceiling of anything but an all glove SS(if he has a glove I have no idea). Or an infield super sub. He would need to drastically change his approach to ever be good enough to start on any sort of playoff team.


It is too bad Kevin Kramer got hurt, he was looking real good in AA. Unlike Newman, I think he could start in the future.
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Posted Yesterday, 04:39 PM

 NCBuccofan, on 21 July 2017 - 12:39 PM, said:

It is too bad Kevin Kramer got hurt, he was looking real good in AA. Unlike Newman, I think he could start in the future.


I hated the Newman pick at the time. Neal Huntington loooooves smallish white MINF with no plus tools. He friggin' loves him.

The Pirates need to bring Mike Tomlin in to draft us a little more diversity.
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Posted Yesterday, 05:49 PM

View PostWinterset Resurrection, on 21 July 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:


The Pirates need to bring Mike Tomlin in to draft us a little more diversity.


This is the kind of stuff that makes people think you're a racist. You don't need a black coach to draft minority players. Philistine.
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Posted Yesterday, 06:16 PM

 Midnight Moose, on 21 July 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

This is the kind of stuff that makes people think you're a racist. You don't need a black coach to draft minority players. Philistine.


Well then Neal Huntington needs a little more awareness, because we currently have more crackers than the Chicken-in-a-Biscuit factory.
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Posted Yesterday, 06:33 PM

View PostWinterset Resurrection, on 21 July 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

Well then Neal Huntington needs a little more awareness, because we currently have more crackers than the Chicken-in-a-Biscuit factory.


Huntington is probably a Republican.
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Posted Yesterday, 07:11 PM

Sigh...

#politicsineverythread
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#whereisgobucs
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Posted Yesterday, 07:14 PM

View PostWinterset Resurrection, on 21 July 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

Well then Neal Huntington needs a little more awareness, because we currently have more crackers than the Chicken-in-a-Biscuit factory.

If you didn't jump the gun on everything, you would know that black American participation is baseball is down. The biggest problem is that MLB continues to market to old white guys.
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Posted Yesterday, 07:20 PM

Why does it matter what color a player is? Gregory Polanco is black. Kris Bryant is white. I'd still rather have Kris Bryant.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:19 PM

 Winterset Resurrection, on 21 July 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

I hated the Newman pick at the time. Neal Huntington loooooves smallish white MINF with no plus tools. He friggin' loves him.

The Pirates need to bring Mike Tomlin in to draft us a little more diversity.


Only thing I agree with is I also hated the pick. I wouldn't say he has no tools, but his one tool was hit for contact. People claimed he was a great base stealer but he sucks at that.

KLaw loved him. I would say he was wrong here.

This years draft was more into the high risk high reward with some interesting picks mixed around. Plus they signed almost everyone, you figure at least one turns into a good player just by the numbers.

Mason Martin should be your guy.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:35 PM

Do Dominican's think they are black?

That's a different continent.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:58 PM

Why did Malcolm X think he was black? He was born in the same continent.



Dumbass.
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Posted Today, 12:18 AM

View PostGideon Clarke, on 21 July 2017 - 08:58 PM, said:

Why did Malcolm X think he was black? He was born in the same continent.

Dumbass.


Are you sure NYPirate?

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Dominican's are Latino.
Genetically, they're mixed (most likely a mix of native islander, spanish and african) but their ethnicity is Dominican which falls under the broader scope called Latino or hispanic.

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Posted Today, 02:37 AM

If you set aside the fact that race isn't a real thing in biological terms, it's determined either two ways: unscientifically or pseudoscientifically.

Unscientifically, race is based on how a person looks and where their ancestors came from. Polanco looks like a black man. He has a black man's hair and skin. His features are mixed, but there's black in the mix. He undoubtedly has ancestors from Africa. Put this another way: do you think lunch counters would have served Gregory Polanco in the 1950s?

Pseudoscientifically, race is determined by bullshit theories from the powdered wig days, when they had something called the "one drop rule." Basically, if you have any black ancestors, you're black. Polanco undoubtedly had black ancestors. By that rule, he's black.



Anyway, getting away from my fixation on always being right, if you don't call Polanco black, you sure as hell can't call him white either. So my original point that it doesn't matter what color a ballplayer is still applies.
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Posted Today, 05:27 AM

But what if the Pirates have a history of drafting "zero drop" middle infielders who end up stinxing?

Bring on the drops. #makeitrain
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Posted Today, 06:47 AM

View PostGideon Clarke, on 22 July 2017 - 02:37 AM, said:

If you set aside the fact that race isn't a real thing in biological terms, it's determined either two ways: unscientifically or pseudoscientifically.

Unscientifically, race is based on how a person looks and where their ancestors came from. Polanco looks like a black man. He has a black man's hair and skin. His features are mixed, but there's black in the mix. He undoubtedly has ancestors from Africa. Put this another way: do you think lunch counters would have served Gregory Polanco in the 1950s?

Pseudoscientifically, race is determined by bullshit theories from the powdered wig days, when they had something called the "one drop rule." Basically, if you have any black ancestors, you're black. Polanco undoubtedly had black ancestors. By that rule, he's black.



Anyway, getting away from my fixation on always being right, if you don't call Polanco black, you sure as hell can't call him white either. So my original point that it doesn't matter what color a ballplayer is still applies.

Read Roberto Clemente's biography and you will get a definitive no.
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Posted Today, 07:03 AM

View PostGideon Clarke, on 22 July 2017 - 02:37 AM, said:

if you don't call Polanco black, you sure as hell can't call him white either.


No one but you is calling him black, he's not. And no one else is calling him white either, he's not. He's hispanic, that's neither black nor white.
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