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  1. In Topic: Steeler's Offseason Thread

    26 May 2017 - 10:32 AM

     oblongatta, on 26 May 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

    This right here is the critical aspect. Ben just as easily could have said nothing. Or he could have called or txted Bell. And said hey, maybe it'd be good if you were here. I'm not sure anyone would have noticed or said anything about it if it wasn't for Ben. There probably would have been a single sentence in the paper saying "Le'Veon Bell was not at the OTAs as he recovers from surgery."

    Instead Ben decided to take this to the media. He's the one who created something of a distraction.

    Ben is ALWAYS gonna Ben.
  2. In Topic: Hillary Clinton for President

    25 May 2017 - 10:15 PM

     Grey, on 25 May 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:

    Yep. I heard people actually defend him. Sick assault on a defenseless reporter. With witnesses.

    "Misdemeanor assault". Party over country.

    People voted for a President that bragged about sexually assaulting women. You're shocked?

    Hell, Trump told Ted Cruz that his wife is ugly and his dad killed JFK and he still follows him around like a sad puppy. The base of that party knows no bottom.
  3. In Topic: Steeler's Offseason Thread

    25 May 2017 - 09:40 PM

     jcharding, on 25 May 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

    Sorry, but for me the so called drama king angle is far less of an issue than a man twice suspended for weed and one strike away from being banned for a year.

    Being criticized by a guy that was suspended for raping a girl in a bar.

    Either way, we see it differently. He doesn't "owe" his teammates anything. He actually doesn't "owe" the Steelers anything, who decided it wasn't to their benefit to sign him to a multi year deal that would've incentivized him to show up to a voluntary workout. He's an employee and they're his employer. A collective bargaining agreement between the league and the union made these workouts optional. He excercised his option to not show up. Ben crying to the media is what's making it a story. Ben isn't one to pass up the chance to hop in to the spotlight. Watching a workout isn't going to make him better prepared for a season 4 months away.
  4. In Topic: Steeler's Offseason Thread

    25 May 2017 - 09:25 PM

     jcharding, on 25 May 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

    He owes it to his teammates to tell them - directly - why he's not there.

    I would be more concerned if he didn't tell his boss, Mike Tomlin, that he wouldn't be there. . Or if he were under contract. But he isn't under contract and it seems like he told his boss. At least judging by the fact that I can't find a quote from someone saying he didn't tell the coaches. Ben is his peer, as much as he likes to be a drama queen and do his in front of the cameras leader talk.
  5. In Topic: Steeler's Offseason Thread

    25 May 2017 - 07:54 PM

     jcharding, on 25 May 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

    If it were James Harrison, or Villanueva. No. They haven't been suspended. Bell and Martavis - yes. Contract or not. Because they hung their teammates out to dry through selfishness and stupidity, and directly or indirectly caused the team losses and potential playoff positioning. They owe their teammates an extremely high level of responsibility right now.

    He owes it to his teammates to watch them practice?

    Ok then. Interesting view but I couldn't disagree more.


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