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  1. In Topic: Pirates Season Thread

    Today, 12:44 PM

    View Postoblongatta, on 23 August 2017 - 11:57 AM, said:

    Not necessarily. It's probably a combination of re-injuring a not completely healed injury, injury caused by compensating for other injury, a workout that is non-optimal for body type, too much effort, and yes probably some bad luck. But the key point is that I didn't list not working out or too little effort or not taking care of body in the offseason. My stance is that it is frustrating a guy with so much talent has these frequent injuries. And maybe they can get him a better workout program. But the injuries themselves in this case are not the product of lack of workout effort so I don't see them as a reason to hate the player.

    This reminds me of the things I used to hear about Eric Davis and his body type.

    Eric Davis snorted a pound of cocaine before each game.
  2. In Topic: Pirates Season Thread

    Today, 11:44 AM

    View Postoblongatta, on 23 August 2017 - 10:59 AM, said:

    Yes, but the earlier links say that they designed his previous off-season workouts.

    Granted every player might need tweaking to workouts, but the idea that he isn't taking care of his body and working on conditioning is just plain wrong. It's not that his workouts are not "sufficient" in terms of volume or effort. I think the better word might be something like "efficient" because they are not sufficient in the types of workouts. Or at least that's the stab in the dark the Pirates trainers are taking.

    So you're simply chalking up his frequent injuries to bad luck?
  3. In Topic: Pirates Season Thread

    Today, 10:43 AM

     oblongatta, on 23 August 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

    just to follow up on what I said with some supporting links:

    2016 added muscle

    2017 off season workouts
    2017 off season

    So Tomczyk admits his offseason program is not sufficient? Ok.
  4. In Topic: Pirates Season Thread

    Today, 10:18 AM

    View Postoblongatta, on 23 August 2017 - 09:55 AM, said:

    I'm guessing since you mention Shazier and Cal Ripken you despise him because he got injured.

    I've never understood hating a player because he got injured while competing. Sure it sucks, but it's not the players fault (usually, excepting for getting injured by bad form etc.).

    I think he needs to take better care of his body. He doesn't appear to look like someone that takes advantage of conditioning to the fullest. He still seems very uncoordinated and awkward while moving. Shouldn't that have subsided at least a bit in 3-4 years?
  5. In Topic: Pirates Season Thread

    Today, 10:16 AM

    View PostGoBucs21, on 23 August 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

    I'm not sure it's Polanco's fault. The FO fans and NH fluffers always build up prospects as a means to defend them. Then when the guys bust, they blame the player.

    I'm not even talking about his skillset. I'm pissed the guy always gets hurt.


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