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#21 User is offline   silverspring 

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 12:31 AM

View PostGoBucs21, on 26 February 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

I tell the manager that if the parents don't get their kids under control, we will leave without paying.

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You can do that?

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 06:42 AM

View PostGoBucs21, on 26 February 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

In a public place, there is no room for kids acting out in any way. If they start, one of the parents should remove the kid(s) from the area ASAP.


Well, but they're also kids, and can't be expected to comport themselves like adults at all times.

Generally, being a parent myself, I'm patient giving another mom or dad a good 2-3 minutes to get their kids back under control if they're still flipping out. But yeah, after that, it's good to escort the little buggers out until they can regain control of the situation.
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 06:41 PM

View PostWinterset Resurrection, on 02 March 2017 - 06:42 AM, said:

Well, but they're also kids, and can't be expected to comport themselves like adults at all times.

Generally, being a parent myself, I'm patient giving another mom or dad a good 2-3 minutes to get their kids back under control if they're still flipping out. But yeah, after that, it's good to escort the little buggers out until they can regain control of the situation.

I tend to stick to places where it wouldn't be normal to have a child. I don't eat at chain restaurants. If you have a crying kid someplace I'm hanging out, you probably shouldn't have brought the child there to begin with.

But I am willing to be far more understanding if the parents demonstrate a sense of shame and a desire to remedy the situation. But I tend to see the zombie face, which means they should have stayed home. If you can't care about the people around you, you should stay home and eat TV dinners.
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:03 PM

View PostSloshy, on 02 March 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

But I am willing to be far more understanding if the parents demonstrate a sense of shame and a desire to remedy the situation.


HAHAHA this made me laugh out loud!

Yes- the sense of shame is absolutely key.
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 11:16 PM

View PostGoBucs21, on 26 February 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

If it doesn't stop quickly, I tell the manager that if the parents don't get their kids under control, we will leave without paying.


Wouldn't that be against the law, i.e. stealing?

While I can understand a restaurant owner offering to pay for everyone's meals if there is an out-of-control kid ruining the dining experience, I don't think he's under any obligation to solve it (it's not like he can call the cops for a noisy kid). And if they ask the parents to leave if they can't control their kid, in today's instant social media age, thousands of people would instantly jump on the restaurant owner for being unfair to children.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:17 AM

I have two 5-year olds and now my wife is nagging me to get a dog

Man, fuck that noise. I love dogs but I already have no time to myself and the house already looks like a tornado filled with Legos and stuffed animals rolled through. And if I am traveling, which I do for work a lot, it will take her approximately 16 seconds to start bitching about how hard it is to take care of the dog when I am out of town.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:59 AM

View PostJermaine Allensworth, on 02 March 2017 - 11:16 PM, said:

Wouldn't that be against the law, i.e. stealing?

While I can understand a restaurant owner offering to pay for everyone's meals if there is an out-of-control kid ruining the dining experience, I don't think he's under any obligation to solve it (it's not like he can call the cops for a noisy kid). And if they ask the parents to leave if they can't control their kid, in today's instant social media age, thousands of people would instantly jump on the restaurant owner for being unfair to children.

They tend to see it my way.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 04:46 AM

View Postdonwengert4life, on 03 March 2017 - 12:17 AM, said:

I have two 5-year olds and now my wife is nagging me to get a dog

Man, fuck that noise. I love dogs but I already have no time to myself and the house already looks like a tornado filled with Legos and stuffed animals rolled through. And if I am traveling, which I do for work a lot, it will take her approximately 16 seconds to start bitching about how hard it is to take care of the dog when I am out of town.


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Stay strong. To be a good dog owner, it literally is as much time commitment as another child. Sounds like you don't need that right now.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:53 AM

View PostGoBucs21, on 03 March 2017 - 12:59 AM, said:

They tend to see it my way.


I know, most business owners want to make sure that the majority of their diners are having an enjoyable experience. But again, wouldn't walking out without paying because of something that another customer (in this a child) is doing amount to stealing?
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 06:04 AM

View PostJermaine Allensworth, on 03 March 2017 - 05:53 AM, said:

I know, most business owners want to make sure that the majority of their diners are having an enjoyable experience. But again, wouldn't walking out without paying because of something that another customer (in this a child) is doing amount to stealing?


I would tend to agree. I don't think two wrongs make a right there.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 06:05 AM

View PostJermaine Allensworth, on 03 March 2017 - 05:53 AM, said:

I know, most business owners want to make sure that the majority of their diners are having an enjoyable experience. But again, wouldn't walking out without paying because of something that another customer (in this a child) is doing amount to stealing?


Well, if someone walks out because they're unhappy with their dining experience, leaving 3/4 of their meal sitting uneaten on their plates, then no, it wouldn't be considered stealing. It would be considered a pissed off customer.

Of course, if someone finishes every bite, then comes up with a reason to complain, and tries to skate without paying, that's another matter.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 07:04 AM

View PostJermaine Allensworth, on 03 March 2017 - 05:53 AM, said:

I know, most business owners want to make sure that the majority of their diners are having an enjoyable experience. But again, wouldn't walking out without paying because of something that another customer (in this a child) is doing amount to stealing?

Again, it's never come to that. It does motivate the manager to get bad parents under control.

I am paying for meals and service.
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:14 PM

View PostGoBucs21, on 03 March 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

Again, it's never come to that. It does motivate the manager to get bad parents under control.

I am paying for meals and service.


What if it is a special needs child? I get what you are saying, but not all kids are the same as your kid. Plus you only had/have on to control. I guess it depends on what type of place you are doing this at too.

This sloshy guy seems real liberal, and then he is shunning people that have kids? Lets help the kids get education and healthcare, but dont let me see them.

I also do not see why it matters if kids are at the breweries in Charlotte. How are they bothering you? It is loud anyways.
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:45 PM

View PostNCBuccofan, on 08 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

I also do not see why it matters if kids are at the breweries in Charlotte. How are they bothering you? It is loud anyways.


For me I guess I just don't like it because I feel like I can't have as much fun. The local minor league team has a fan deck thats a bunch of food and beer, and sometimes a lot of kids running around. I hate those games, because you're sitting at the tables with friends, drinking and you got kids running around. They're doing kid stuff, and I get it. I remember running around and not actually watching the baseball game at the game because thats boring. On the other hand when I see that I feel like I have to censor myself. I can't joke about smelly vaginas and paying a trans hooker to lick my scotum around kids, thats just weird and wrong. I do have some morals, not a lot but some. Around my friends its funny. Around kids its not. And I'm not even yelling out dirty jokes at the top of my lungs, just general conversation levels. Still I dial it back because of the kids. Sometimes we just take a taxi down to the game so we can get drunk. Getting drunk around kids sucks. I feel like a shitty step dad or something.

I put up with it because a lot of times those families are from businesses that are hosting a special employee night for family and friends, and those companies are what keeps the fan deck alive. But in a perfect world it'd be no kids.
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 05:34 PM

View PostMa13tt0, on 08 March 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

For me I guess I just don't like it because I feel like I can't have as much fun. The local minor league team has a fan deck thats a bunch of food and beer, and sometimes a lot of kids running around. I hate those games, because you're sitting at the tables with friends, drinking and you got kids running around. They're doing kid stuff, and I get it. I remember running around and not actually watching the baseball game at the game because thats boring. On the other hand when I see that I feel like I have to censor myself. I can't joke about smelly vaginas and paying a trans hooker to lick my scotum around kids, thats just weird and wrong. I do have some morals, not a lot but some. Around my friends its funny. Around kids its not. And I'm not even yelling out dirty jokes at the top of my lungs, just general conversation levels. Still I dial it back because of the kids. Sometimes we just take a taxi down to the game so we can get drunk. Getting drunk around kids sucks. I feel like a shitty step dad or something.

I put up with it because a lot of times those families are from businesses that are hosting a special employee night for family and friends, and those companies are what keeps the fan deck alive. But in a perfect world it'd be no kids.


This post is epic on all kinds of levels.
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 07:02 PM

View PostNCBuccofan, on 08 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

What if it is a special needs child? I get what you are saying, but not all kids are the same as your kid. Plus you only had/have on to control. I guess it depends on what type of place you are doing this at too.

This sloshy guy seems real liberal, and then he is shunning people that have kids? Lets help the kids get education and healthcare, but dont let me see them.

I also do not see why it matters if kids are at the breweries in Charlotte. How are they bothering you? It is loud anyways.

There are exceptions to every rule. Yes, I consider where I am. I don't have the same expectations at a ball game, as I do a nice restaurant or a movie. Parents need to be respectful of others in public places. If a parent can't control there kids, they shouldn't inconvenience others.
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