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  1. In Topic: Trump Presidency Thread

    Yesterday, 11:22 PM

    Speaking of Arizona


    John McCain says there are "lots" he'd like to see changed in the health care bill, but not withholding support.

    "That's not how it works."

    That's. Not. How. It. Works.
  2. In Topic: Trump Presidency Thread

    Yesterday, 11:21 PM

     Gideon Clarke, on 26 June 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

    On the one hand, I have no problem at all with a law enforcement officer detaining illegal immigrants.

    On the other hand, the way Arpaio handled sex crimes should be punishable by death. This, to me, is a pretty clear case of a guy being on trial for the wrong thing.

    Except Arpaio wasn't detaining illegals, he was detaining and framing American citizens. He is no better than a Nazi gestapo in the way he detained people.
  3. In Topic: Trump Presidency Thread

    Yesterday, 06:37 PM

    Joe Arpaio's trial started today. Hopefully he dies in prison
  4. In Topic: Another nutjob goes off...

    Yesterday, 05:21 PM

    Philando Castile's family was given $3M in a settlement today with the city. Odd payment for a justified killing.
  5. In Topic: Trump Presidency Thread

    Yesterday, 04:31 PM

     jcharding, on 26 June 2017 - 04:09 PM, said:

    CBO says Senate version of Trumpcare will result in 22m more people with no insurance. It still doesn't estimate the effects of changing the Medicaid system to a per capita (or block grant, if states choose) so that number could be 6-15m higher.

    The "good" news is that it has an estimated federal deficit savings of $321B, or $32B per year, which is no longer budget dust but still not immense. This $321B is $202B more than the House, so there is room for compromise to prevent some moderates from defecting (such as more opioid funding, rather than the pathetic $2B contained in the bill).

    I've only glanced at the CBO report, but I don't think it includes any commentary on how the bill games the 10 year CBO window. The traditional Medicaid changes don't start until 4 or 5, and the effects don't get really large until after the 10 year scoring window. That means both additional budget savings and additional coverage losses.

    Does the budget savings analysis factor in the sharp rise in medical bill fueled bankruptcies we will see?


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