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#12301 User is offline   Midnight Moose 

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Posted Yesterday, 06:58 PM

View PostDale Berra, on 27 April 2017 - 04:35 PM, said:


So, yeah... I really do think Trump is an idiot. But I'm also not as hard on him as some of you because, you know... money.


As good of a reason as any. If Trump stood to benefit my wallet, I'd probably be more supportive of him, as well.
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Posted Yesterday, 10:48 PM

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Posted Yesterday, 11:32 PM

View PostMidnight Moose, on 27 April 2017 - 06:58 PM, said:

As good of a reason as any. If Trump stood to benefit my wallet, I'd probably be more supportive of him, as well.

He does benefit my wallet and I still don't support him.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:37 PM

Really, Gary Johnson would have similarly promised to roll back taxes and unleash the market's animal spirits -- all while protecting national parks, keeping borders open to Muslim immigrants and limiting any military engagement overseas. That's why I voted for him.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:40 PM

He also probably knew who Kim Jong-Un was before last week. Has anyone asked Trump about Aleppo?
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Posted Yesterday, 11:47 PM

View PostDale Berra, on 27 April 2017 - 11:37 PM, said:

Really, Gary Johnson would have similarly promised to roll back taxes and unleash the market's animal spirits -- all while protecting national parks, keeping borders open to Muslim immigrants and limiting any military engagement overseas. That's why I voted for him.

Except data doesn't show that tax cuts unleash anything like the market's animal spirit. Historically, tax cuts tend to lead to individuals paying down debt. Tax cuts for corporations won't inspire much growth, unless individuals are using their tax cuts to drive up demand. Since debt reduction is the historical reaction, product demand doesn't go up, corporations don't reinvest in their infrastructure and job growth is minimal.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:49 PM

 Gideon Clarke, on 27 April 2017 - 11:40 PM, said:

He also probably knew who Kim Jong-Un was before last week. Has anyone asked Trump about Aleppo?


Considering he learned how the Judicial Branch of our government works while on the job likely tells you what he thinks about Aleppo.
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View PostPSU4Lyfe, on 27 April 2017 - 11:49 PM, said:

Considering he learned how the Judicial Branch of our government works while on the job likely tells you what he thinks about Aleppo.

Trump doesn't think about anything until someone tells him to. Unless told otherwise, he thinks about himself.
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Posted Today, 03:14 AM

View PostGideon Clarke, on 27 April 2017 - 11:40 PM, said:

He also probably knew who Kim Jong-Un was before last week. Has anyone asked Trump about Aleppo?


Sure. Trump during the 2nd debate: "I think Aleppo is a disaster, humanitarian-wise. ... I think that it, basically, has fallen."
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Posted Today, 05:38 AM

 GoBucs21, on 27 April 2017 - 11:47 PM, said:

Except data doesn't show that tax cuts unleash anything like the market's animal spirit. Historically, tax cuts tend to lead to individuals paying down debt. Tax cuts for corporations won't inspire much growth, unless individuals are using their tax cuts to drive up demand. Since debt reduction is the historical reaction, product demand doesn't go up, corporations don't reinvest in their infrastructure and job growth is minimal.

Yeah. As I said yesterday, I'm for lowering corporate taxes--the rest, not so much. The WSJ had a great article (with useful charts) Thursday suggesting that now is not the time in this economic cycle to lower taxes. It's a time to focus on debt and deficit reduction. On this particular topic, Kasich was my favorite candidate.

But Trump has definitely juiced the markets simply with the promise of shedding anti-growth regulations.
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Posted Today, 06:32 AM

View PostDale Berra, on 28 April 2017 - 05:38 AM, said:

Yeah. As I said yesterday, I'm for lowering corporate taxes--the rest, not so much. The WSJ had a great article (with useful charts) Thursday suggesting that now is not the time in this economic cycle to lower taxes. It's a time to focus on debt and deficit reduction. On this particular topic, Kasich was my favorite candidate.

But Trump has definitely juiced the markets simply with the promise of shedding anti-growth regulations.

I'm not against a flat 15% corporate tax. But if there is no change as it's related to credits and exemptions, then it's just a giveaway. I don't know if the market's responding to Trump or simply a new election. When Obama was re-elected, the market showed a larger jump in the first 100 days.
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