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I don't get the continued reverence.

Since 2000, he is 46-38. Above average, but nothing that great.

Time to step down and let Bradley run things full time up there.


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QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:50 AM)
I don't get the continued reverence.

Since 2000, he is 46-38. Above average, but nothing that great.

Time to step down and let Bradley run things full time up there.

It's going to be a sad day when Bradley gets passed over for job by Jay Paterno. Mark it down, it will happen. Nobody deserves a HC gig more.


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QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:50 AM)
I don't get the continued reverence.

Since 2000, he is 46-38. Above average, but nothing that great.

Time to step down and let Bradley run things full time up there.

But he beat the worst bowl eligible Florida State team in 30 years at the Orange Bowl!


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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 09:57 AM)
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I don't get the continued reverence.

Since 2000, he is 46-38.  Above average, but nothing that great.

Time to step down and let Bradley run things full time up there.

But he beat the worst bowl eligible Florida State team in 30 years at the Orange Bowl!

And you guys beat Wake Forest CONGRATS!!!! BRING THE BCS TROPHY!!!!!!!!!!!


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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 09:55 AM)
QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:50 AM)
I don't get the continued reverence.

Since 2000, he is 46-38.  Above average, but nothing that great.

Time to step down and let Bradley run things full time up there.

It's going to be a sad day when Bradley gets passed over for job by Jay Paterno. Mark it down, it will happen. Nobody deserves a HC gig more.

Well, Jay Paterno will not be the next successor.

It'll definitely be Bradley.
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QUOTE (pensteel @ Aug 31 2007, 09:58 AM)
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I don't get the continued reverence.

Since 2000, he is 46-38.  Above average, but nothing that great.

Time to step down and let Bradley run things full time up there.

It's going to be a sad day when Bradley gets passed over for job by Jay Paterno. Mark it down, it will happen. Nobody deserves a HC gig more.

Well, Jay Paterno will not be the next successor.

It'll definitely be Bradley.

It's probably going to be Schiano actually.


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QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 10:14 AM)

It's probably going to be Schiano actually.

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QUOTE (pensteel @ Aug 31 2007, 02:58 PM)
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QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:50 AM)
I don't get the continued reverence.

Since 2000, he is 46-38.  Above average, but nothing that great.

Time to step down and let Bradley run things full time up there.

It's going to be a sad day when Bradley gets passed over for job by Jay Paterno. Mark it down, it will happen. Nobody deserves a HC gig more.

Well, Jay Paterno will not be the next successor.

It'll definitely be Bradley.

All indications are that Bradley would be the front-runner among the current staff.

However, given the way the athletic department, the university, and the entire town of State College operate...I certainly would not rule out Jay Paterno.


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here are the future schedules for Penn State vs. the big East powers of Rutgers, West Virginia, and Louisville.

Penn State:

08: Central Florida, Syracuse, Temple
09: eastern Michigan, Syracuse, Temple,
10: Temple, Youngstown State, Alabama
11: Temple, Eastern michigan, Alabama
12: Temple, Virginia

Rutgers:

08: Navy, North Carolina, Army
09: Navy, MAryland, Army
10: North Carolina, Navy, Army, Notre Dame,
11: North carolina, Navy, Notre dame, Army
12: Notre Dame, Army, Navy

West Virginia:

08: Auburn, MArshall, Colorado, Villanova, Eastern carolina
09: Auburn, MArshall, Colorado, Eastern Carolina
10: Marshall, Michigan State, Maryland
11: Maryland, Michigan State, Maryland

Louisville:

08: Kentucky, Kansas State, Middle Tennessee State, Tennessee Tech
09: Utah, Kentucky
10: Oregon State, Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky
11: Georgia, Kentucky


Its pretty obvious that Penn State plays the weakest of the schedules. Louisville is a close second but Rutgers, and especially West Virgina play an extremely tough non-conference schedule.

There's only one thing a college football fan can take from this. And its that Joe PA needs those esay wins to keep near Bowden even though he more than likely will die first.


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WVU has Florida State in 2012-13 too.


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QUOTE (monarch0 @ Aug 31 2007, 02:26 PM)
WVU has Florida State in 2012-13 too.

I'm don't like one conference more than another but man, you have to give west Virginia credit for their scheduling. Not one Big ten school would do that because they play both Ohio State and Michigan. But guess what? WVU plays Louisville and rutgers.

I'd rather see a one loss WVU in a BCS game anyday over a undeafeated PSU just because WVU has a tougher road and thus gains greater respect.


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I'm sure Penn State will bitch out of the Bama games.....AGAIN!


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QUOTE (crosscuttersno1 @ Aug 31 2007, 01:20 PM)
here are the future schedules for Penn State vs. the big East powers of Rutgers, West Virginia, and Louisville.

Penn State:

08: Central Florida, Syracuse, Temple
09: eastern Michigan, Syracuse, Temple,
10: Temple, Youngstown State, Alabama
11: Temple, Eastern michigan, Alabama
12: Temple, Virginia

Rutgers:

08: Navy, North Carolina, Army
09: Navy, MAryland, Army
10: North Carolina, Navy, Army, Notre Dame,
11: North carolina, Navy, Notre dame, Army
12: Notre Dame, Army, Navy

West Virginia:

08: Auburn, MArshall, Colorado, Villanova, Eastern carolina
09: Auburn, MArshall, Colorado, Eastern Carolina
10: Marshall, Michigan State, Maryland
11: Maryland, Michigan State, Maryland

Louisville:

08: Kentucky, Kansas State, Middle Tennessee State, Tennessee Tech
09: Utah, Kentucky
10: Oregon State, Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky
11: Georgia, Kentucky


Its pretty obvious that Penn State plays the weakest of the schedules. Louisville is a close second but Rutgers, and especially West Virgina play an extremely tough non-conference schedule.

There's only one thing a college football fan can take from this. And its that Joe PA needs those esay wins to keep near Bowden even though he more than likely will die first.

Add to that Pitt's future schedule which includes the likes of:

Notre Dame
Miami
Virginia Tech
Iowa
NC State
Navy

and I would say the Big East is stepping up the scheduling.


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Penn State never backed out of any Bama games, so I would probably do some research fact-finding before doling out information like that.


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QUOTE (mzimmerman81 @ Aug 31 2007, 02:42 PM)
Penn State never backed out of any Bama games, so I would probably do some research fact-finding before doling out information like that.

I believe bama backed out but I can't remember why.


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Penn State never backed out of any Bama games, so I would probably do some research fact-finding before doling out information like that.

I believe bama backed out but I can't remember why.

That's also the story I heard as well at the time, nothing was documented on it, or if it was I never found it, so NYPirate is incorrect.


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QUOTE (mzimmerman81 @ Aug 31 2007, 01:46 PM)
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Penn State never backed out of any Bama games, so I would probably do some research fact-finding before doling out information like that.

I believe bama backed out but I can't remember why.

That's also the story I heard as well at the time, nothing was documented on it, or if it was I never found it, so NYPirate is incorrect.

still doesn't explain why GrandPa won't play Pitt home-away.


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I think the Big East vs. Big Ten makes for a good argument but the fact the Big East only has eight teams is always going to hurt them. Also the Big East is REALLY up right now and in the long run the Big Ten probably is a little better.

The one conference that is seriously out of it is the ACC.


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QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 02:49 PM)

still doesn't explain why GrandPa won't play Pitt home-away.

Certainly not because he is afraid of losing


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QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 01:49 PM)
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Penn State never backed out of any Bama games, so I would probably do some research fact-finding before doling out information like that.

I believe bama backed out but I can't remember why.

That's also the story I heard as well at the time, nothing was documented on it, or if it was I never found it, so NYPirate is incorrect.

still doesn't explain why GrandPa won't play Pitt home-away.

wait a minute... you guys are bashing JoePA for so called "weak scheduling" but you want him to schedule 1-AA wannabe Pitt? How exactly does adding Pitt make our schedule tougher?
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QUOTE (buccobenny @ Aug 31 2007, 02:54 PM)
wait a minute... you guys are bashing JoePA for so called "weak scheduling" but you want him to schedule 1-AA wannabe Pitt? How exactly does adding Pitt make our schedule tougher?

I wasn't trying to trash PSu. More to the fact that they could up their schedule a little. If Pittsburgh is so easy, and PSU obviously likes those type of games, why don't they play Pitt every year in a rivalry game?


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QUOTE (buccobenny @ Aug 31 2007, 01:54 PM)
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Penn State never backed out of any Bama games, so I would probably do some research fact-finding before doling out information like that.

I believe bama backed out but I can't remember why.

That's also the story I heard as well at the time, nothing was documented on it, or if it was I never found it, so NYPirate is incorrect.

still doesn't explain why GrandPa won't play Pitt home-away.

wait a minute... you guys are bashing JoePA for so called "weak scheduling" but you want him to schedule 1-AA wannabe Pitt? How exactly does adding Pitt make our schedule tougher?

Because Pitt is light years ahead of Temple, Buffalo, and Eastern Michigan, that's how, dumbass.

And I'm not a Pitt fan, I could care less if they go 2-10 or 10-2.



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wait a minute... you guys are bashing JoePA for so called "weak scheduling" but you want him to schedule 1-AA wannabe Pitt? How exactly does adding Pitt make our schedule tougher?

I wasn't trying to trash PSu. More to the fact that they could up their schedule a little. If Pittsburgh is so easy, and PSU obviously likes those type of games, why don't they play Pitt every year in a rivalry game?

Because other weaker schools give PSU 2 home games out of the 3 game series. Pitt refuses to do so because they are such a powerhouse football program.
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And for that, they are not on national TV. But they are on the almighty Big Ten network.


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QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 01:49 PM)
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Penn State never backed out of any Bama games, so I would probably do some research fact-finding before doling out information like that.

I believe bama backed out but I can't remember why.

That's also the story I heard as well at the time, nothing was documented on it, or if it was I never found it, so NYPirate is incorrect.

still doesn't explain why GrandPa won't play Pitt home-away.

Because poor little crybaby Ratface's Eastern Football league never materialized. Boo Fucking Hoo. Then I I get a kick out of how fans think Penn State DESERVES a two for one because of all of those years the poor little NitWits had to travel to Pittsburgh. Diaper Boy will never admit that publicly. He uses the "Well, we have to fund the women's tampon throwing team" as his excuse for scheduling Little Sisters of the poor at home every year.

Maybe if Penn State's Basketball program wasn't such a joke they could help bring in some of the "supposed" money needed!


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I just heard from Irhotspots mom the the MAC is the conference to beat.


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still doesn't explain why GrandPa won't play Pitt home-away.

Certainly not because he is afraid of losing

Pitt is terrible, and as much as Penn State is not going to be phenomenal this year, they'd still wipe the floor with Pitt any day of any week. Penn State has absolutely nothing to gain by playing Pitt. And I'm a proponent for the Big East. Pitt needs to get their shit together before a Pitt-Penn State series would be even mildly worth it for PSU.


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still doesn't explain why GrandPa won't play Pitt home-away.

Certainly not because he is afraid of losing

Pitt is terrible, and as much as Penn State is not going to be phenomenal this year, they'd still wipe the floor with Pitt any day of any week. Penn State has absolutely nothing to gain by playing Pitt. And I'm a proponent for the Big East. Pitt needs to get their shit together before a Pitt-Penn State series would be even mildly worth it for PSU.

Yes, because you have your NATURAL rival in Michigan State playing for the vaunted Land Grant Trophy!


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still doesn't explain why GrandPa won't play Pitt home-away.

Certainly not because he is afraid of losing

Pitt is terrible, and as much as Penn State is not going to be phenomenal this year, they'd still wipe the floor with Pitt any day of any week. Penn State has absolutely nothing to gain by playing Pitt. And I'm a proponent for the Big East. Pitt needs to get their shit together before a Pitt-Penn State series would be even mildly worth it for PSU.

Yes, because you have your NATURAL rival in Michigan State playing for the vaunted Land Grant Trophy!

They have no choice in Michigan state. But once again why not play Pitt. If Pitt is so bad, wouldn't it make sense to beat the crap out of them to attain the right to better kids from PA. Playing crap school on crap tv does NOTHING for recruiting.


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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 03:13 PM)

Yes, because you have your NATURAL rival in Michigan State playing for the vaunted Land Grant Trophy!

Today has to be stupid day.


Michigan State would be in the Big Ten, you know, the same conference PSU is in. So they really don't have a choice in playing them, now for being a rival, they may play for the Land Grant Trophy, but its not really considered a "rivalry" per se.


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The Buckeyes just finished a home and home with Texas last year, this year strts Washington (who knew they would be so bad in 2002 when this was set-up), they also have Syracuse (see Washington), USC, Cal and Miami of Florida all tabbed for Home and Home between now and 2012. Jim Tressel has no problem scheduling early season tests for his team. Any non-conference cupcakes on the schedule are either the product of basd luck (Washington and Syracuse) or intra-state games (see WVU/Marshall).

By the way, whomever was praising WVU for a non-conference schedule that included Marshall should try to watch CFB since the start of the new millinium. Marshall sucks and has for a number of years now. How WVU playing Marshall, Michigan State and Maryland is tough scheduling is beyond me, especially since one of those teams is from the shitty Big 10.


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By the way, whomever was praising WVU for a non-conference schedule that included Marshall should try to watch CFB since the start of the new millinium. Marshall sucks and has for a number of years now. How WVU playing Marshall, Michigan State and Maryland is tough scheduling is beyond me, especially since one of those teams is from the shitty Big 10.

You do realize WVU was FORCED to play Marshall by the West Virginia Government?


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The MAC, by the way, still remains the most underrated conference in college football, both in terms of quality of the games on Saturdays, and the talent they produce for the NFL.

Really good football, without the snobbish elitist qualities of the traditional "powerhouse conferences" like the SEC, Pac-10, Big Ten, etc. etc. etc...


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The MAC, by the way, still remains the most underrated conference in college football, both in terms of quality of the games on Saturdays, and the talent they produce for the NFL.

Really good football, without the snobbish elitist qualities of the traditional "powerhouse conferences" like the SEC, Pac-10, Big Ten, etc. etc. etc...

And don't they play a conference championship? Something the Big Ten will always be to afraid of.


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The MAC, by the way, still remains the most underrated conference in college football, both in terms of quality of the games on Saturdays, and the talent they produce for the NFL.

Really good football, without the snobbish elitist qualities of the traditional "powerhouse conferences" like the SEC, Pac-10, Big Ten, etc. etc. etc...

And don't they play a conference championship? Something the Big Ten will always be to afraid of.

The Big 11 would need to add a 12th team to play a conference championship I believe.
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PSU claims it needs the extra home football game every year to help keep its athletic program in the black. That sounds like bullshit, but I can see it. PSU has an enormous number of intercollegiate, club, and intramural sports. Probably more than any of the other schools people have been discussing here. And the only other sport at PSU that makes ANY profit is men's basketball. And they don't make very much profit because they suck. Again, unlike schools like Louisville, Pitt, and WVU which consistently field good men's basketball teams.

So...you either cut down on the size of the athletic program and piss off a whole lot of people including the Title IX nut jobs. Or you schedule the extra home game against whomever you can find. Often that's going to involve a I-AA team.

I would rather see someone like Army, Navy, or even SMU on the schedule rather than Florida International or Coastal Carolina. But when PSU's schedule includes Notre Dame, Virginia, Syracuse (which sucks now but which could be good in a couple of years), and Alabama (before they backed out) it's kind of hard to say they are totally ducking tough competition.


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I'm not saying they duck competition. I actually agree with your assessment about their schedule.


And thge Big 11 could easily add Nothern Illinois or marshall or the like to be championship eligible. Themoney is huge for those games. I just believe they are afraid of one of their power teams taking a loss. Thus the reason they are the only conference done before thanksgiving.


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I just heard from Irhotspots mom the the MAC is the conference to beat.

That's weird, I got word from her that on her last scouting trip the MAC dropped three balls.


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I'm not saying they duck competition. I actually agree with your assessment about their schedule.


And thge Big 11 could easily add Nothern Illinois or marshall or the like to be championship eligible. Themoney is huge for those games. I just believe they are afraid of one of their power teams taking a loss. Thus the reason they are the only conference done before thanksgiving.

As a Marshall grad I would have to say there is no way any major conference would take them as was clearly evident when the Big East added teams like UConn, Cincy, and South Florida because Marshall could not bring in the money that those schools could. No way the Big 10 would want them, and I would assume the same with Northern Illinois.


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By the way, whomever was praising WVU for a non-conference schedule that included Marshall should try to watch CFB since the start of the new millinium.  Marshall sucks and has for a number of years now.  How WVU playing Marshall, Michigan State and Maryland is tough scheduling is beyond me, especially since one of those teams is from the shitty Big 10.

You do realize WVU was FORCED to play Marshall by the West Virginia Government?

sure do, and don't think it is a bad idea to do so, OSU does the same thing but spread over the larger number of D1-A schools in Ohio


only remarking that praising them for doing so is ridiculous

I also realize that WVU resisted for fear of getting their asses handed to them by a MAC school


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The MAC, by the way, still remains the most underrated conference in college football, both in terms of quality of the games on Saturdays, and the talent they produce for the NFL.

Really good football, without the snobbish elitist qualities of the traditional "powerhouse conferences" like the SEC, Pac-10, Big Ten, etc. etc. etc...

On the flip side they are home to probably one of the worst I-A schools in football history. None other than the Dave Letterman Ball State Cardinals. Grew up 20 minutes from them. One bowl game in the last 20-ish years. It was against Nevada. And they got their asses handed to them.


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I'm not saying they duck competition. I actually agree with your assessment about their schedule.


And thge Big 11 could easily add Nothern Illinois or marshall or the like to be championship eligible. Themoney is huge for those games. I just believe they are afraid of one of their power teams taking a loss. Thus the reason they are the only conference done before thanksgiving.

If any team should be added I'd vote for Notre Dame. Right in the middle of the conference. But a pretty big problem. What's their new name. Can't be the Big 12.


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I'm not saying they duck competition.  I actually agree with your assessment about their schedule.


And thge Big 11 could easily add Nothern Illinois or marshall or the like to be championship eligible. Themoney is huge for those games. I just believe they are afraid of one of their power teams taking a loss.  Thus the reason they are the only conference done before thanksgiving.

If any team should be added I'd vote for Notre Dame. Right in the middle of the conference. But a pretty big problem. What's their new name. Can't be the Big 12.

I read that the Big 10 has spoken with Texas, which apparently is unhappy in the Big 12 for some reason.

That would be an awesome addition to the conference.


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I read that the Big 10 has spoken with Texas, which apparently is unhappy in the Big 12 for some reason.

That would be an awesome addition to the conference.

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I'm not saying they duck competition.  I actually agree with your assessment about their schedule.


And thge Big 11 could easily add Nothern Illinois or marshall or the like to be championship eligible. Themoney is huge for those games. I just believe they are afraid of one of their power teams taking a loss.  Thus the reason they are the only conference done before thanksgiving.

If any team should be added I'd vote for Notre Dame. Right in the middle of the conference. But a pretty big problem. What's their new name. Can't be the Big 12.

But Notre Dame already has a TV deal on an actual channel people can watch. Why would they go to the Big Pretend?


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But Notre Dame already has a TV deal on an actual channel people can watch. Why would they go to the Big Pretend?

You really need to work on names. I bet a 88 year old midget with down syndrome and no tongue could make infinitely better names. So since we don't have a midget with down syndrome, we'll settle for Greybeard. Take it away.


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But Notre Dame already has a TV deal on an actual channel people can watch. Why would they go to the Big Pretend?

You really need to work on names. I bet a 88 year old midget with down syndrome and no tongue could make infinitely better names. So since we don't have a midget with down syndrome, we'll settle for Greybeard. Take it away.

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My old neighbor was an A-AD at a local university, who recently made the final four. He was on several NCAA committees. A few years ago, he told me that the Big 10 made a huge push for Notre Dame but failed.

Notre Dame does not want to join a football conference for one reason, money. Notre Dame does not have to share any money from their NBC deal or the bowl games in which they appear. That's the same reason ND is against a playoff. I don't see that changing.

Back to my point, after the Big 10 failed to get ND, they went very hard after Pitt. There were three selling points for Pitt. They could revive the Pitt/Penn State game. They really liked Pitt's business program and the post graduate program. And finally, Pitt's reputation for multiple organ transplants. While they wanted another school that didn't have a terrible football program, they felt that some of Pitt's academic programs would bring some level of increased prestige to the Big 10. I never found out why Pitt turned them down but they did.

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My old neighbor was an A-AD at a local university, who recently made the final four.  He was on several NCAA committees.  A few years ago, he told me that the Big 10 made a huge push for Notre Dame but failed.

Notre Dame does not want to join a football conference for one reason, money.  Notre Dame does not have to share any money from their NBC deal or the bowl games in which they appear.  That's the same reason ND is against a playoff.  I don't see that changing.

Back to my point, after the Big 10 failed to get ND, they went very hard after Pitt.  There were three selling points for Pitt.  They could revive the Pitt/Penn State game.  They really liked Pitt's business program and the post graduate program.  And finally, Pitt's reputation for multiple organ transplants.  While they wanted another school that didn't have a terrible football program, they felt that some of Pitt's academic programs would bring some level of increased prestige to the Big 10.  I never found out why Pitt turned them down but they did.

Personally, I'm glad they did.  I hate the Big 10.  Joining the Big 10 probably would have hurt Pitt's basketball program.

I know that the Ivy League and maybe a couple D-III conferences focus highly on academics, but I didn't realize that D-IA conferences cared about the academic prowess of its members. Are Pitt's academics really a selling point for a conference to recruit them?
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My old neighbor was an A-AD at a local university, who recently made the final four.  He was on several NCAA committees.  A few years ago, he told me that the Big 10 made a huge push for Notre Dame but failed.

Notre Dame does not want to join a football conference for one reason, money.  Notre Dame does not have to share any money from their NBC deal or the bowl games in which they appear.  That's the same reason ND is against a playoff.  I don't see that changing.

Back to my point, after the Big 10 failed to get ND, they went very hard after Pitt.  There were three selling points for Pitt.  They could revive the Pitt/Penn State game.  They really liked Pitt's business program and the post graduate program.  And finally, Pitt's reputation for multiple organ transplants.  While they wanted another school that didn't have a terrible football program, they felt that some of Pitt's academic programs would bring some level of increased prestige to the Big 10.  I never found out why Pitt turned them down but they did.

Personally, I'm glad they did.  I hate the Big 10.  Joining the Big 10 probably would have hurt Pitt's basketball program.

I know that the Ivy League and maybe a couple D-III conferences focus highly on academics, but I didn't realize that D-IA conferences cared about the academic prowess of its members. Are Pitt's academics really a selling point for a conference to recruit them?

The Big Ten Presidents place a higher value on academics than most. The Pac Ten does too. While Pitt doesn't have a wide array of well thought of academic programs, their University Hospitals are recognized around the world. Their Graduate Business program is nationally recognized as one of the better programs.


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This year's team may be so bad, it could be the stuff of legend. But I will still be at the home opener tonight against Washington. Except for the Buffalo game, it's the one time I am not virtually certain of a loss.

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Everyone schedules these games.  What a ridiculous argument.  WVU scheduled a conference winner.  That doesn't change the fact they're a I-AA school.  CFB needs to cut back to 11 games to end this shit.

Actually, West Virginia doesn't have any FCS/I-AA teams on their schedule.

My bad, I thought western michigan was. I guess they're pretty good for a "softie."

And Appy State sucks. Can't believe that's viewed as "ok" for michigan.

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I read that the Big 10 has spoken with Texas, which apparently is unhappy in the Big 12 for some reason. 

That would be an awesome addition to the conference.

Might as well ask China if they wanna join.

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My old neighbor was an A-AD at a local university, who recently made the final four.  He was on several NCAA committees.  A few years ago, he told me that the Big 10 made a huge push for Notre Dame but failed.

Notre Dame does not want to join a football conference for one reason, money.  Notre Dame does not have to share any money from their NBC deal or the bowl games in which they appear.  That's the same reason ND is against a playoff.  I don't see that changing.

Back to my point, after the Big 10 failed to get ND, they went very hard after Pitt.  There were three selling points for Pitt.  They could revive the Pitt/Penn State game.  They really liked Pitt's business program and the post graduate program.  And finally, Pitt's reputation for multiple organ transplants.  While they wanted another school that didn't have a terrible football program, they felt that some of Pitt's academic programs would bring some level of increased prestige to the Big 10.  I never found out why Pitt turned them down but they did.

Personally, I'm glad they did.  I hate the Big 10.  Joining the Big 10 probably would have hurt Pitt's basketball program.

I know that the Ivy League and maybe a couple D-III conferences focus highly on academics, but I didn't realize that D-IA conferences cared about the academic prowess of its members. Are Pitt's academics really a selling point for a conference to recruit them?

you can be average and get into pitt...their academics are not much of a selling point.


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most state schools have somewhat lesser requirements for in-state applicants than for out of state or international students

Actually I've heard its the other way around. If you have two B+ average students and one is in state and the other is out of state. They'll give you the nod to the out of stater since they get more money for the same student. It could depend on the school and their morals. Or I could have heard wrong. Either way. I don't think it's hard to imagine that they would want their money.


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My old neighbor was an A-AD at a local university, who recently made the final four.  He was on several NCAA committees.  A few years ago, he told me that the Big 10 made a huge push for Notre Dame but failed.

Notre Dame does not want to join a football conference for one reason, money.  Notre Dame does not have to share any money from their NBC deal or the bowl games in which they appear.  That's the same reason ND is against a playoff.  I don't see that changing.

Back to my point, after the Big 10 failed to get ND, they went very hard after Pitt.  There were three selling points for Pitt.  They could revive the Pitt/Penn State game.  They really liked Pitt's business program and the post graduate program.  And finally, Pitt's reputation for multiple organ transplants.  While they wanted another school that didn't have a terrible football program, they felt that some of Pitt's academic programs would bring some level of increased prestige to the Big 10.  I never found out why Pitt turned them down but they did.

Personally, I'm glad they did.  I hate the Big 10.  Joining the Big 10 probably would have hurt Pitt's basketball program.

I know that the Ivy League and maybe a couple D-III conferences focus highly on academics, but I didn't realize that D-IA conferences cared about the academic prowess of its members. Are Pitt's academics really a selling point for a conference to recruit them?

you can be average and get into pitt...their academics are not much of a selling point.

That's a pretty stupid statement, since an average student can get into most schools. I would point out that both George Bush and Al Gore were pretty average student but both got into Ive League schools.

Now, read what I wrote. The Big Ten was focused on improving its conference academic reputations with the inclusion of Pitt's University Hospital and its Post Graduate Business School. If you don't think neither is nationally recognized, that's your business. You would be wrong with that thought.


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They seemed to do well against the good teams in the bowl season.  The Big East was 5-0 in bowl game last year.  No other major conference did that.

Big East - 5-0
SEC 6-3
ACC - 4-4
Pac 10 - 3-3
Big 12 - 3-5
Big 10 - 2-5

The Big East beat ACC teams twice and the Big 12 once.

I would love to see a Big East/Big 10 early season matchup of the top teams in each conference.  Heck play the first 8 from each conference. 

The Big 10 won't do it.  Penn State won't even schedule Pitt any longer.

The Big East was a better conference than the Big 10 last year and they will be this year.

OSU v. Wake Forest
Michigan v Ga Tech.
Wisconsin v Kansas St.
Penn State v East Carolina
Purdue v Western Michigan

Big Ten goes 5-0 in those games as well. (btw, those are the teams the Big East played against in bowls last year).

Big Ten >>>>>>>>>>>>>Big East last year and all other years.

Still think Michigan beats Ga Tech? Three losses in a row for Michigan going back to last year. In those three losses, UM gives up about 110 points.

From here on out, I'm a Michigan fan. I want Michigan to win the conference. I want them to throttle the conference. Then I want them embarrassed in the Rose Bowl. That way, Appy State can be the "mythical" Big Ten champion.

I say again, the Big Ten is vastly overrated. Its two best teams were taken to the woodshed last year. Its best team this year suffered the worst (or best) upset in the history of college football. Now, I want to see the entire conference discredited by Michigan winning it.

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I agree GB21. I would love to see Michigan storm through the rest of the Big 10. I am tired of hearing about that conference. They might once have been an elite conference but they haven't been in years. Somehow the Michigan/Ohio State game is always seen as this match-up of super powers so that whichever team wins it is anointed as a great team. I don't buy it and thought the hand-wringing over Michigan getting "screwed" out of a national title shot last year was ridiculous. They went on to prove how ridiculous it was. I don't see any great teams in the conference this year, and their worst teams are as bad as any in CFB. If I had to rank the conferences, it would go something like this:

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I might be convinced to move the Big 12 around a bit, but the Big 10 is way down this year. They simply are not anything special as a conference right now.
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SEC




Pac-10
Big East
Big 12
Big 10
ACC


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SEC




Pac-10
Big East
Big 12
Big 10
ACC


You lost me right there.

I have to disagree. They have three good to very good teams this year. USC is the class of the NCAA this year. Cal could be a top ten team this year and UCLA is certainly top 20. Which of the other conferences (excluding the SEC which is clearly the deepest and best conference) will have three teams that good?

The Big 12 has two good teams and everyone else chasing them. We will see how good Nebraska is in a couple weeks. After the USC game with UN, there will be no doubt that the Pac is better than the 12.

If you are going to debate who is the best after the SEC, The Big East is the only conference with a credible argument. The Big 10 has little credibility after having their two best teams get throttled last January and with Michigan losing to App St. What little credibility they have will erode with each Michigan win this year.

The ACC took three of the Big East's better teams and managed to turn them into also rans. The ACC should be re-evaluated in order to determine if they should continue to get an automatic BCS bowl birth. That's how bad the ACC is.

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The Pac 10 is legit. It had the highest BCS rating for a conference last year, and had a better strength of schedule than the SEC.

According to the computers, the best conferences last year were in this order:

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My old neighbor was an A-AD at a local university, who recently made the final four.  He was on several NCAA committees.  A few years ago, he told me that the Big 10 made a huge push for Notre Dame but failed.

Notre Dame does not want to join a football conference for one reason, money.  Notre Dame does not have to share any money from their NBC deal or the bowl games in which they appear.  That's the same reason ND is against a playoff.  I don't see that changing.

Back to my point, after the Big 10 failed to get ND, they went very hard after Pitt.  There were three selling points for Pitt.  They could revive the Pitt/Penn State game.  They really liked Pitt's business program and the post graduate program.  And finally, Pitt's reputation for multiple organ transplants.  While they wanted another school that didn't have a terrible football program, they felt that some of Pitt's academic programs would bring some level of increased prestige to the Big 10.  I never found out why Pitt turned them down but they did.

Personally, I'm glad they did.  I hate the Big 10.  Joining the Big 10 probably would have hurt Pitt's basketball program.

I know that the Ivy League and maybe a couple D-III conferences focus highly on academics, but I didn't realize that D-IA conferences cared about the academic prowess of its members. Are Pitt's academics really a selling point for a conference to recruit them?

you can be average and get into pitt...their academics are not much of a selling point.

That's a pretty stupid statement, since an average student can get into most schools. I would point out that both George Bush and Al Gore were pretty average student but both got into Ive League schools.

Now, read what I wrote. The Big Ten was focused on improving its conference academic reputations with the inclusion of Pitt's University Hospital and its Post Graduate Business School. If you don't think neither is nationally recognized, that's your business. You would be wrong with that thought.

You gotta understand, last night, I wasn't in a 100% state of mind. I think I passed out at 3:30 and woke up at 6...(I was absolutely exhausted from my game the day before). What I was saying was that from a student's perspective, Pitt's farely easy to get into...how I got from answering mickey's queston to something totally different, I really don't remember.


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My old neighbor was an A-AD at a local university, who recently made the final four.  He was on several NCAA committees.  A few years ago, he told me that the Big 10 made a huge push for Notre Dame but failed.

Notre Dame does not want to join a football conference for one reason, money.  Notre Dame does not have to share any money from their NBC deal or the bowl games in which they appear.  That's the same reason ND is against a playoff.  I don't see that changing.

Back to my point, after the Big 10 failed to get ND, they went very hard after Pitt.  There were three selling points for Pitt.  They could revive the Pitt/Penn State game.  They really liked Pitt's business program and the post graduate program.  And finally, Pitt's reputation for multiple organ transplants.  While they wanted another school that didn't have a terrible football program, they felt that some of Pitt's academic programs would bring some level of increased prestige to the Big 10.  I never found out why Pitt turned them down but they did.

Personally, I'm glad they did.  I hate the Big 10.  Joining the Big 10 probably would have hurt Pitt's basketball program.

I know that the Ivy League and maybe a couple D-III conferences focus highly on academics, but I didn't realize that D-IA conferences cared about the academic prowess of its members. Are Pitt's academics really a selling point for a conference to recruit them?

you can be average and get into pitt...their academics are not much of a selling point.

That's a pretty stupid statement, since an average student can get into most schools. I would point out that both George Bush and Al Gore were pretty average student but both got into Ive League schools.

Now, read what I wrote. The Big Ten was focused on improving its conference academic reputations with the inclusion of Pitt's University Hospital and its Post Graduate Business School. If you don't think neither is nationally recognized, that's your business. You would be wrong with that thought.

You gotta understand, last night, I wasn't in a 100% state of mind. I think I passed out at 3:30 and woke up at 6...(I was absolutely exhausted from my game the day before). What I was saying was that from a student's perspective, Pitt's farely easy to get into...how I got from answering mickey's queston to something totally different, I really don't remember.

No argument that getting into Pitt is easier than many other schools. That fact, if we agree that is fact, doesn't change the fact that Pitt has other programs that are very good.

Contrary to belief, some conferences are interested in their academic reputation. Pitt's recognized programs would add to almost any conference's academic reputation.


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The Pac 10 is legit.  It had the highest BCS rating for a conference last year, and had a better strength of schedule than the SEC.

According to the computers, the best conferences last year were in this order:

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Your opinion stopped mattering when you said South Florida would beat PSU and should have beaten them 2 years ago.

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The Pac 10 is legit.  It had the highest BCS rating for a conference last year, and had a better strength of schedule than the SEC.

According to the computers, the best conferences last year were in this order:

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Your opinion stopped mattering when you said South Florida would beat PSU and should have beaten them 2 years ago.

After watching Michigan yesterday, I would say almost anything is possible. Penn State probably isn't as good as Michigan (we will see how this plays out) and App St may not be as good as South Florida.


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We can reevaluate this argument next week when South Florida beats an Auburn team that should have lost to Kansas freaking State yesterday.


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I would just like to point out on this conference matter, I really could careless who has the best complete conference.

I am a Penn State fan.

I hate ND, Mich, OSU, Nebraska

After that I love watching CFB, and love when the underdogs win.


and, GB21 if Michigan's defense plays like it did yesterday, they certainly are not better than PSU, although I am not one to base an entire 12-13 game season on one game, so we'll see.


Right now I am concerned with the Gold Domers who come into Happy Valley next week.


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If PSU scores less than 40 points against ND, i'll be really surprised. I'm saying 42-14.


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If PSU scores less than 40 points against ND, i'll be really surprised. I'm saying 42-14.

Hope you are right, I don't get too excited as to not get let down.

I just don't think ND is as bad as they were yesterday (I hope they are). If Ga Tech had a competent offense they would have won 50-3.

I really can't take anything away from PSU's win yesterday, they played FIU, now they didn't have any trouble and pretty much kicked their ass, but its FIU.


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I would just like to point out on this conference matter, I really could careless who has the best complete conference.

I am a Penn State fan.

I hate ND, Mich, OSU, Nebraska

After that I love watching CFB, and love when the underdogs win.


and, GB21 if Michigan's defense plays like it did yesterday, they certainly are not better than PSU, although I am not one to base an entire 12-13 game season on one game, so we'll see.


Right now I am concerned with the Gold Domers who come into Happy Valley next week.

Michigan's defense stinks. They stunk last year and lost two of there better players from that team. They stink this year. If I were JoePa, I would run slant and crossing patterns all day.

Still, I hate Penn State nearly as much as I hate the Cincinnati Reds. JoePa is the reason. He threw a hissy fit when Syracuse and Pitt didn't bend to his will. I hope he loses every game from here on out. If his team played the Venezuealan All Stars, I would be cheering in Spanish.


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I don't mind Penn State, but I do wish that they would be interested in renewing the WVU rivalry, because that would be a hell of a lot more rewarding for both teams than PSU-Pitt.


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Your opinion stopped mattering when you said South Florida would beat PSU and should have beaten them 2 years ago.

You know the South Florida team that beat Elon College 28-13 yesterday

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa..............whoa....whoa.


Are you saying that a guy who has many people come to him for advice doesn't have good advice? Ludacris. Thats all this is.


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I agree totally with Zimm (first time for everything I guess)

All of you Big Least (Pitt) supporters trying to got get Penn St. fans riled up because Michigan lost is highly laughable. I don't know 1 Penn St. fan that isn't happy Michigan got beat. I want Michigan to lose every fucking game they play. The fact that you are trying to say "told you so" means very little to me. You guys are right enjoy your "legitimite Power Confrence" this season. So while 16 people or so watch any Uconn, Pitt, Cincy, or S. FLA game.... The million or so people that watch Big Ten football will all sit quietly and politely... fo we have been bested by your powerful "8 team league where 5 of our teams are garbage, and of the 3 good ones... one was the worst program in college football until about 4 years ago"

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Provided they get the Big Ten Network...


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Provided they get the Big Ten Network...

I watched Wisconsin on ABC or NBC or CBS or something, yesterday.


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hey stunk last year and lost two of there better players from that team.


Actually, it's more than that. Lamar Woodley, Alan Branch and Leon Hall were all drafted on the first day of the NFL draft, and Ryan Mundy transferred to WVU.



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Call you local cable, or satalite provider!
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Anybody that gives in and purchases the Big Ten Network is continuing the nose dive our sports are currently in.

Fuck them. I hope nobody buys it.



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Anybody that gives in and purchases the Big Ten Network is continuing the nose dive our sports are currently in.

Fuck them. I hope nobody buys it.

I certainly won't buy it.

I went to the game yesterday, the other two PSU games that are on it, I will be attending one of them and going to the bar to watch the other.


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If PSU scores less than 40 points against ND, i'll be really surprised.  I'm saying 42-14.

Hope you are right, I don't get too excited as to not get let down.

I just don't think ND is as bad as they were yesterday (I hope they are). If Ga Tech had a competent offense they would have won 50-3.

I really can't take anything away from PSU's win yesterday, they played FIU, now they didn't have any trouble and pretty much kicked their ass, but its FIU.


3 points...

1. yes, the stomped the shit out of FIU, but if penn state's run offense doesn't wake the fuck up and show more than they did in the first half on saturday, they could be in trouble later in the season.

2. if michigan's pass D doesn't improve even morelli, who is dumb as a bag of hammers, will absolutely bend them over and make them his kitty

3. wasn't jimmy clausen supposed to be the single greatest quarterback in the history of football and combined with the supreme intellect that is charlie "i just ate a D-lineman" weis mean that notre dame would win the national championship without even playing?

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