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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 31 2007, 02:37 AM) | You can't be serious.
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only FBS/I-A team they're playing is Buffalo, and they should be an
FCS/I-AA team. They've won seven games since 2002. Murray State and
Southeast Missouri State aren't even that competitive in FCS football,
let alone against FBS teams in major conferences.
No, the Big
East loses my respect for scheduling these games. If you're going to
take the time to schedule a FBS/I-AA team, at least go for the big
fish. Get Youngstown State, Montana, Appalachain State, North Dakota
State, etc. |
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 30 2007, 10:41 PM) | QUOTE (monarch0 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:39 PM) |
Everyone schedules these games. What a ridiculous argument.
WVU scheduled a conference winner. That doesn't change the fact
they're a I-AA school. CFB needs to cut back to 11 games to end
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Actually, West Virginia doesn't have any FCS/I-AA teams on their schedule.
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My bad, I thought western michigan was. I guess they're pretty good for a "softie."
And Appy State sucks. Can't believe that's viewed as "ok" for michigan.
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If the NCAA wants to fix the Football Bowl Subdivision - formerly I-A -
then they need to install a playoff system similar to what currently
works very well in the Football Championship Subdivision - formerly
I-AA.
Teams are done by mid-November with their 11 game
schedules. Eight conferences have automatic bids for their conference
champions. Eight teams are selected as at-large bids. They play a
standard bracket with the highest seeded team getting the home game.
Since 1997, the Championship Subdivision Championship Game has been
played annually on Davenport Field at Finley Stadium, in Chattanooga,
Tennessee. Finley Stadium is the home field of the University of
Tennessee at Chattanooga.
You could make it a 32 team bracket
and still finish around New Year's. The first round is played at the
home of the higher seed (that elusive 12th game on the schedule). The
second round is played at the sites of some of the lesser bowl games
(Detroit and the Motor City Bowl, etc). The quarterfinals, with eight
teams left, are played at the sites of places like the Outback Bowl.
The semifinals and finals are played similar to the BCS Games - rotate
the championship game around the sites for the Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl,
Fiesta Bowl, etc.
Simple solution.
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QUOTE (monarch0 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:44 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 30 2007, 10:41 PM) | QUOTE (monarch0 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:39 PM) |
Everyone schedules these games. What a ridiculous argument.
WVU scheduled a conference winner. That doesn't change the fact
they're a I-AA school. CFB needs to cut back to 11 games to end
this shit. |
Actually, West Virginia doesn't have any FCS/I-AA teams on their schedule.
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My bad, I thought western michigan was. I guess they're pretty good for a "softie."
And Appy State sucks. Can't believe that's viewed as "ok" for michigan.
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Appalachain State won the FCS/I-AA championship last year. They'll give Michigan quite a ball game.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 30 2007, 09:37 PM) | You can't be serious.
The
only FBS/I-A team they're playing is Buffalo, and they should be an
FCS/I-AA team. They've won seven games since 2002. Murray State and
Southeast Missouri State aren't even that competitive in FCS football,
let alone against FBS teams in major conferences.
No, the Big
East loses my respect for scheduling these games. If you're going to
take the time to schedule a FBS/I-AA team, at least go for the big
fish. Get Youngstown State, Montana, Appalachain State, North Dakota
State, etc. |
They seemed to do well against the good teams in the bowl season. The
Big East was 5-0 in bowl game last year. No other major conference did
that.
Big East - 5-0 SEC 6-3 ACC - 4-4 Pac 10 - 3-3 Big 12 - 3-5 Big 10 - 2-5
The Big East beat ACC teams twice and the Big 12 once.
I
would love to see a Big East/Big 10 early season matchup of the top
teams in each conference. Heck play the first 8 from each conference.
The Big 10 won't do it. Penn State won't even schedule Pitt any longer.
The Big East was a better conference than the Big 10 last year and they will be this year.
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:50 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 30 2007, 09:37 PM) | You can't be serious.
The
only FBS/I-A team they're playing is Buffalo, and they should be an
FCS/I-AA team. They've won seven games since 2002. Murray State and
Southeast Missouri State aren't even that competitive in FCS football,
let alone against FBS teams in major conferences.
No, the Big
East loses my respect for scheduling these games. If you're going to
take the time to schedule a FBS/I-AA team, at least go for the big
fish. Get Youngstown State, Montana, Appalachain State, North Dakota
State, etc. |
They
seemed to do well against the good teams in the bowl season. The Big
East was 5-0 in bowl game last year. No other major conference did that.
Big East - 5-0 SEC 6-3 ACC - 4-4 Pac 10 - 3-3 Big 12 - 3-5 Big 10 - 2-5
The Big East beat ACC teams twice and the Big 12 once.
I
would love to see a Big East/Big 10 early season matchup of the top
teams in each conference. Heck play the first 8 from each conference.
The Big 10 won't do it. Penn State won't even schedule Pitt any longer.
The Big East was a better conference than the Big 10 last year and they will be this year.
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GoBucs, I don't discount any of that. I just think it cheapens the game
when these high power conferences are scheduling the weakest teams in
FCS/I-AA football instead of going for the tougher teams or staying
with FBS/I-A football.
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QUOTE (monarch0 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:53 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 30 2007, 10:52 PM) |
GoBucs, I don't discount any of that. I just think it cheapens the game
when these high power conferences are scheduling the weakest teams in
FCS/I-AA football instead of going for the tougher teams or staying
with FBS/I-A football. |
Yeah, but don't act like the Big East are the only culprits.
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I'm not. This thread was about touting the performance of the Big East tonight against crap teams. I objected to that.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 30 2007, 09:49 PM) |
If the NCAA wants to fix the Football Bowl Subdivision - formerly I-A -
then they need to install a playoff system similar to what currently
works very well in the Football Championship Subdivision - formerly
I-AA.
Teams are done by mid-November with their 11 game
schedules. Eight conferences have automatic bids for their conference
champions. Eight teams are selected as at-large bids. They play a
standard bracket with the highest seeded team getting the home game.
Since 1997, the Championship Subdivision Championship Game has been
played annually on Davenport Field at Finley Stadium, in Chattanooga,
Tennessee. Finley Stadium is the home field of the University of
Tennessee at Chattanooga.
You could make it a 32 team bracket
and still finish around New Year's. The first round is played at the
home of the higher seed (that elusive 12th game on the schedule). The
second round is played at the sites of some of the lesser bowl games
(Detroit and the Motor City Bowl, etc). The quarterfinals, with eight
teams left, are played at the sites of places like the Outback Bowl.
The semifinals and finals are played similar to the BCS Games - rotate
the championship game around the sites for the Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl,
Fiesta Bowl, etc.
Simple solution. |
Here's why it won't work.
1. You kill the bowl games. There is way too much money in those games. The University Presidents won't accept that.
2. The NCAA can't pick the 65 best basketball teams at the end of the season. How can they pick the best 32 football teams.
3.
The bitching and moaning won't stop at the 32. It will continue into
the seeding. Seeds 5-28 will complain about their seeding and having to
play on the road.
4. The seeding is as arbitrary as the polls.
SEC teams will complain that they are hurt by playing in a highly
competitive conference. Everyone will complain that everyone else had a
soft schedule.
5. This one is a weak argument but the post
season takes place while finals are going on. If there is a post
season, lets just stop calling them students.
6. If you put the early round losers in the bowl, it becomes nothing more than a runner up game that no one watches.
The
post season works in the lower levels because everyone is happy to keep
playing. Big time college football is about generating revenue.
Elimlinating or drastically changing the bowl games hurts revenues. It
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QUOTE (JwILLsCERA @ Aug 30 2007, 10:58 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 31 2007, 02:57 AM) |
Murray State, not Morehead State. Although they're about equal. The
difference is Murray State actually offers scholarships to win one game
like they did last year, while Morehead State does not.
RMU plays Morehead State on the 22nd. Heh. |
Which is sad, considering the revenue Morehead St. generates through their hat sales alone.
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Indeed.
Eventually,
though, you'll see all FCS/I-AA teams offer scholarships or be asked to
drop down to D-2 or D-3. And then you'll see a proliferation of
Morehead State hats.
Which will be a good thing.
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QUOTE (JwILLsCERA @ Aug 30 2007, 10:56 PM) | QUOTE (monarch0 @ Aug 31 2007, 02:55 AM) | The Big Ten fucking blows. It is way more topheavy than the Big East. |
The top is way better than the Big East's elite. What's your point?
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That's a matter of opinion.
WVU v. Michigan is a push. Louisville would beat OSU this year. Wisconsin would beat Rutgers. South Florida would beat Penn State this year (they should have beat them two years ago)
The bottom of the Big Ten is absolutely atrocious.
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 31 2007, 02:59 AM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 30 2007, 09:49 PM) |
If the NCAA wants to fix the Football Bowl Subdivision - formerly I-A -
then they need to install a playoff system similar to what currently
works very well in the Football Championship Subdivision - formerly
I-AA.
Teams are done by mid-November with their 11 game
schedules. Eight conferences have automatic bids for their conference
champions. Eight teams are selected as at-large bids. They play a
standard bracket with the highest seeded team getting the home game.
Since 1997, the Championship Subdivision Championship Game has been
played annually on Davenport Field at Finley Stadium, in Chattanooga,
Tennessee. Finley Stadium is the home field of the University of
Tennessee at Chattanooga.
You could make it a 32 team bracket
and still finish around New Year's. The first round is played at the
home of the higher seed (that elusive 12th game on the schedule). The
second round is played at the sites of some of the lesser bowl games
(Detroit and the Motor City Bowl, etc). The quarterfinals, with eight
teams left, are played at the sites of places like the Outback Bowl.
The semifinals and finals are played similar to the BCS Games - rotate
the championship game around the sites for the Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl,
Fiesta Bowl, etc.
Simple solution. |
Here's why it won't work.
1. You kill the bowl games. There is way too much money in those games. The University Presidents won't accept that.
2. The NCAA can't pick the 65 best basketball teams at the end of the season. How can they pick the best 32 football teams.
3.
The bitching and moaning won't stop at the 32. It will continue into
the seeding. Seeds 5-28 will complain about their seeding and having to
play on the road.
4. The seeding is as arbitrary as the polls.
SEC teams will complain that they are hurt by playing in a highly
competitive conference. Everyone will complain that everyone else had a
soft schedule.
5. This one is a weak argument but the post
season takes place while finals are going on. If there is a post
season, lets just stop calling them students.
6. If you put the early round losers in the bowl, it becomes nothing more than a runner up game that no one watches.
The
post season works in the lower levels because everyone is happy to keep
playing. Big time college football is about generating revenue.
Elimlinating or drastically changing the bowl games hurts revenues. It
won't happen.
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EVERY other NCAA sport has either a playoff system or championship meet
of some sort. Every single one but I-A (or whatever it's called). I-AA
has it, II has it, III has it. There will be arguments over who gets
in, but they manage. Besides, you can use the current bowls as the
playoff games.
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QUOTE (JwILLsCERA @ Aug 30 2007, 09:56 PM) | QUOTE (monarch0 @ Aug 31 2007, 02:55 AM) | The Big Ten fucking blows. It is way more topheavy than the Big East. |
The top is way better than the Big East's elite. What's your point?
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What did the top three Big 10 teams do in the bowls last year? What did the top three Big East teams do?
What did the top two Big 10 teams do in the bowls last season? What did the top two Big East teams do?
Michigan
and Ohio State were the class of the Big 10 last season. They just
didn't get pasted, they were embarrassed. If they were the best of the
Big 10, how good can the rest of the conference be?
Michigan is
once again overrated. Ohio State may be accurately ranked. Who know
where Wisconsin is. I would love to see them play WVU, Louisville and
Rutgers but we both know the Bitty 10 won't do it.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Aug 30 2007, 10:04 PM) | QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:59 PM) | Here's why it won't work.
1.
You kill the bowl games. There is way too much money in those
games. The University Presidents won't accept that.
2.
The NCAA can't pick the 65 best basketball teams at the end of the
season. How can they pick the best 32 football teams.
3.
The bitching and moaning won't stop at the 32. It will continue
into the seeding. Seeds 5-28 will complain about their seeding
and having to play on the road.
4. The seeding is as
arbitrary as the polls. SEC teams will complain that they are
hurt by playing in a highly competitive conference. Everyone will
complain that everyone else had a soft schedule.
5. This
one is a weak argument but the post season takes place while finals are
going on. If there is a post season, lets just stop calling them
students.
6. If you put the early round losers in the bowl, it becomes nothing more than a runner up game that no one watches.
The
post season works in the lower levels because everyone is happy to keep
playing. Big time college football is about generating
revenue. Elimlinating or drastically changing the bowl games
hurts revenues. It won't happen. |
1. True, the Bowl Games die. It's either that or continue to have the bitching and moaning all year long.
2. Also true, but that leads to...
3.
Perhaps this is where the BCS Poll (revamped, of course) comes into
play. Takes everything into factor, from strength of schedule to wins
to win margin to loss margin and more.
4. FCS/I-AA teams have
all but remedied that by scheduling tough. If you want to have a bunch
of home playoff games, you get yourself into a tough conference or find
a way to schedule tough out of conference opponents and then win. Put
up or shut up.
5. The bulk of the post-season could occur prior
to finals (Mid-November to Mid-December) and then the final rounds
could take place afterwards.
6. Football fans will watch anything. It's why there's so many games on week in and week out.
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3. The BCS polls used to take all those things into account. That's how
we ended up with Nebraska in the BCS game a few years ago. Then we had
Oklahoma in instead of USC. Each time those Big 12 teams lost their
conference championship game but the BCS poll found them to be the
right team.
The systems gets gamed. Florida won the championship
fair and square on the field. But near the end of the season, Urban
Meyer started whining about how the SEC was so tough that its losses
shouldn't count as other losses. While his team beat the shit out of
Ohio State, I still think he whined his way into position to beat them.
You
can put everyone in tough conferences if you like, it won't work
because no college plays anything remotely close to the same schedule.
What happens to the schools that aren't in the BCS conferences? How do
they get into those conferences? Even if they do, how do you determine
the difference between the third best team in the SEC from the second
best team in the PAC?
Finally, this system will be gamed to
generate revenues. If Pitt is the 15 seed and Georgia is the true
(however that's determined), Georgia will magically get the higher seed
because Georgia fills the stadium.
6. Actually, I believe the
ratings of the non-BCS games are starting to suffer. That is my
opinion. I don't have the data to support it though.
It won't
happen. Like I said, we get four day of pissing and griping before the
basketball tournament. Trying to do it with 32 football teams will be
impossible. No one will agree with any system.
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QUOTE (buccosmfg @ Aug 30 2007, 10:14 PM) | QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 30 2007, 11:04 PM) | What did the top three Big 10 teams do in the bowls last year? What did the top three Big East teams do?
What did the top two Big 10 teams do in the bowls last season? What did the top two Big East teams do?
Michigan
and Ohio State were the class of the Big 10 last season. They
just didn't get pasted, they were embarrassed. If they were the
best of the Big 10, how good can the rest of the conference be? |
are you seriously comparing Florida and USC to Wake Forest and Ga. Tech?
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No, I'm comparing wins to losses. Are you seriously saying that losing
to USC is more of an accomplishment than beating Ga Tech. I'm saying
that beating Wake Forest is more difficult than having your ass handed
to you by Florida.
The Big 10 lost, the Big East won.
Right
now, the best conference is the SEC. The Pac 10 probably follows them.
After that the Big 12 and the Big East. Then the Big 10 will be
doggedly hounded by the ACC to avoid being the worst of the BCS
conferences.
Top to bottom, the SEC is the deepest conference.
The single best team is USC. Everyone else will be playing for the
right to be crushed by them.
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QUOTE (ecbenito @ Aug 30 2007, 10:26 PM) | QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:22 PM) | No,
I'm comparing wins to losses. Are you seriously saying that
losing to USC is more of an accomplishment than beating Ga Tech.
I'm saying that beating Wake Forest is more difficult than having your
ass handed to you by Florida.
The Big 10 lost, the Big East won. |
So
by your logic, since the Red Sox lost today and the Devil Rays won,
that means that the Devil Rays are better, correct? ... beating the
orioles is more of an accomplishment than losing to the yankees
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Just a stupid analogy. The Red Sox and DRays play each other. They also
plays about the same schedule over 162 games. So its very easy to see
who is better.
The NCAA isn't the same way. They don't play the same schedules and many teams never play each other.
Now
are you seriously saying a team that loses, handily to one team is
better than one who wins. By the way, we are talking about winning
games during the bowl season too.
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:30 PM) | QUOTE (ecbenito @ Aug 30 2007, 10:26 PM) | QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:22 PM) | No,
I'm comparing wins to losses. Are you seriously saying that
losing to USC is more of an accomplishment than beating Ga Tech.
I'm saying that beating Wake Forest is more difficult than having your
ass handed to you by Florida.
The Big 10 lost, the Big East won. |
So
by your logic, since the Red Sox lost today and the Devil Rays won,
that means that the Devil Rays are better, correct? ... beating the
orioles is more of an accomplishment than losing to the yankees
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Just
a stupid analogy. The Red Sox and DRays play each other. They also
plays about the same schedule over 162 games. So its very easy to see
who is better.
The NCAA isn't the same way. They don't play the same schedules and many teams never play each other.
Now
are you seriously saying a team that loses, handily to one team is
better than one who wins. By the way, we are talking about winning
games during the bowl season too.
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Yes
that's exactly what I'm saying. A team that loses handily to the
national champs when ranked 2nd is better than one that beats some
shitty school in the fucking papajohns bowl
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QUOTE (mickeyg13 @ Aug 31 2007, 03:04 AM) | QUOTE (JwILLsCERA @ Aug 31 2007, 06:11 AM) | QUOTE (lrhotspot21 @ Aug 31 2007, 06:02 AM) | I'd take slaton and Rice over any two running backs in the nation. Hart and Mcfadden included. |
This thread keeps getting better and better!!!!!!!
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Slaton
did manage to have more rushing yards, more rushing touchdowns, more
receiving yards, and more receiving touchdowns. He averaged 1.2 more
yards per carry than McFadden. So statistically speaking McFadden
pretty much trailed in all aspects of being a running back. Now some of
you will point out the handful of plays McFadden made as a QB, and
others will cite better competition for Arkansas, but it's certainly
not silly to claim that Slaton is the better back. There are "experts"
with no ties to the Big East or WVU that picked Slaton to win the
Heisman this year (Pat Forde for example).
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It is about time people realized that the heisman always equates to the best player!
Thank you.
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You know, just when I think some people here can't get much dumber, I wake up in the morning to read:
South Florida would beat Penn State this year, just like they should have 2 years ago.
I mean WOW, like some here have said, thats a line that shouldn't be ignored.
I
love CFB and the debates it causes, but when people say stuff like
that, and when Lou Holtz predicts Notre Dame will win 10 games like he
did on ESPN a few nights ago, it makes me want to turn the TV off.
Continue on with this discussion I want to see how much more intelligent people are.
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:30 PM) | QUOTE (ecbenito @ Aug 30 2007, 10:26 PM) | QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Aug 30 2007, 10:22 PM) | No,
I'm comparing wins to losses. Are you seriously saying that
losing to USC is more of an accomplishment than beating Ga Tech.
I'm saying that beating Wake Forest is more difficult than having your
ass handed to you by Florida.
The Big 10 lost, the Big East won. |
So
by your logic, since the Red Sox lost today and the Devil Rays won,
that means that the Devil Rays are better, correct? ... beating the
orioles is more of an accomplishment than losing to the yankees
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Just
a stupid analogy. The Red Sox and DRays play each other. They also
plays about the same schedule over 162 games. So its very easy to see
who is better.
The NCAA isn't the same way. They don't play the same schedules and many teams never play each other.
Now
are you seriously saying a team that loses, handily to one team is
better than one who wins. By the way, we are talking about winning
games during the bowl season too.
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Well then compare the Pirates to the Red Sox. Since they play in
different leagues and for the majority of the year, against different
competition. On a night when the Bucs win and the Red Sox lose, are the
Pirates a better team?
Stick to baseball and please stop embarassing yourself.
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QUOTE (mzimmerman81 @ Aug 31 2007, 07:42 AM) | QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 08:29 AM) | I don't think South Florida beating Penn State this year would be that huge of an upset.
As
for Notre Dame, that is doubtful, but the only definite loss is
USC. The other games they have at least a fighting chance.
The underdog seems to play much better in the ND-Michigan series. |
I give people opportunities to not sound stupid and this is what happens?
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Do you seriously think Penn State is really that good this year?
Morelli has played 1 good game against a decent team in his career, and now he is proven?
They lost Hunt, Brown, Pozlusny, and just about their whole DL. Austin Scott has never done anything to impress.
If not for the super cream puff schedule, they would be a .500 team, if not worse.
Notre Dame will be a dogfight, they'll lose at Michigan, and to Wisconsin and Ohio State.
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QUOTE (mzimmerman81 @ Aug 31 2007, 08:07 AM) |
I am certainly not an expert and not one to 100% believe the experts,
but when most of them pick PSU to be somewhere in the 1-3 and possibly
4 range of the B10 and with their skill position players, they
certainly are going to better than you give them credit for.
The fact that you think its a remote possibility that Notre Suck could win 10 games is also funny. |
Finishing 4th in the Big Ten is no big accomplishment.
Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan State and Illinois are terrible. Purdue, Iowa, and Northwestern are mediocre at best.
If Penn State can't finish ahead of that garbage, they should fire JoePa and get on with life.
They will not finish ahead of Michigan, Ohio State and Wisconsin, though.
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QUOTE (JwILLsCERA @ Aug 30 2007, 09:56 PM) | QUOTE (monarch0 @ Aug 31 2007, 02:55 AM) | The Big Ten fucking blows. It is way more topheavy than the Big East. |
The top is way better than the Big East's elite. What's your point?
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Bullshit! WVU and Lville could beat anyone of those Big Ten fucks.
Especially the team with a retard at QB.
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QUOTE (coolpapacole @ Aug 31 2007, 08:21 AM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 08:20 AM) | Bullshit! WVU and Lville could beat anyone of those Big Ten fucks. |
WVU's offense is good enough to keep them in a game against anyone. Their D is probably not though.
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But they have Big Ten Superstar Ryan Mundy as their Free Safety this
year! How can their D not be better? I mean the guy playing in THE BIG
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QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 08:29 AM) | QUOTE (mzimmerman81 @ Aug 31 2007, 08:17 AM) | If I was a betting man, which I am not, I would challenge the last line because they will finish ahead of one of those teams. |
I
realize that everyone in Happy Valley will still be blowing the
rigormortised penis of JoePa ten years after he is dead but what makes
you think that a team that scored 6, 10, and 3 points against tOSU, UM,
and Wisconsin last year will be able to beat any of those teams this
year? Keep in mind that they did lose their two best offensive players
in Hunt and Brown.
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I think they're excited because Moronelli learned to spell Mississippi this year.
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QUOTE (Ma13tt0 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:09 AM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 08:30 AM) | I think they're excited because Moronelli learned to spell Mississippi this year. |
Who?
If you wanna talk smack spell his name right.
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I spelled it just fine. Penn State education got you down?
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QUOTE (mzimmerman81 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:25 AM) | QUOTE (mvk112 @ Aug 31 2007, 08:29 AM) |
As
for Notre Dame, that is doubtful, but the only definite loss is
USC. The other games they have at least a fighting chance.
The underdog seems to play much better in the ND-Michigan series. |
Ok, I went back to re-read this thread because its reaching epic proportions of stupidity and somehow missed this.
You say the only definite loss for ND is USC and then back up the Michigan with something about the underdog.
Did you watch the game last season? It was close wasn't it? Brady Douchebag played well correct?
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Notre Dame was the favorite last year douchebag. And yes I did watch it, ND pulled close but then Michigan pulled away again.
EDIT - they threatened to pull close early in the second half, but never did.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 09:17 AM) | QUOTE (Ma13tt0 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:09 AM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 08:30 AM) | I think they're excited because Moronelli learned to spell Mississippi this year. |
Who?
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I spelled it just fine. Penn State education got you down?
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Black quarterbacks got you down?
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QUOTE (Ma13tt0 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:34 AM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 09:17 AM) | QUOTE (Ma13tt0 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:09 AM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 08:30 AM) | I think they're excited because Moronelli learned to spell Mississippi this year. |
Who?
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I spelled it just fine. Penn State education got you down?
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Black quarterbacks got you down?
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 09:41 AM) | QUOTE (Ma13tt0 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:38 AM) | Big ten is to the Big East as Marcia is to Jan. |
So is Paterno the Mike Brady of the house? You know, the closet homosexual.
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If Paterno is the father of the Big Ten I guess so. Do you play a lot of board games?
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QUOTE (Ma13tt0 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:41 AM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Aug 31 2007, 09:41 AM) | QUOTE (Ma13tt0 @ Aug 31 2007, 09:38 AM) | Big ten is to the Big East as Marcia is to Jan. |
So is Paterno the Mike Brady of the house? You know, the closet homosexual.
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If Paterno is the father of the Big Ten I guess so. Do you play a lot of board games?
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