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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:10 PM) | QUOTE (mzimmerman81 @ Oct 12 2007, 02:08 PM) |
Actually they knew Friday morning, not Saturday, it was announced
immediately on Friday, it just didn't get out until Saturday. |
I wasn't referring to the staff. I was talking about the general public.
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Yes, correct, my bad.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:10 PM) | QUOTE (mzimmerman81 @ Oct 12 2007, 02:08 PM) |
Actually they knew Friday morning, not Saturday, it was announced
immediately on Friday, it just didn't get out until Saturday. |
I wasn't referring to the staff. I was talking about the general public.
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It's called the judicial process. It takes time, and it's not complete.
They've only gotten to the point where they have arraigned him.
Same
process happens with every other person in the United States. Commit
crime, victim brings charges, investigation takes place, charges
dropped or arraignment occurs.
Generally speaking, of course.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When was the last time you were on a college campus?
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About 12 hours ago.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:20 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When was the last time you were on a college campus?
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About 12 hours ago.
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You must not be observant then. Again, the point stands. There's plenty of drunken activity at 2am that does not involve sex.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When
was the last time you were on a college campus? There's plenty that
occurs at 2am amongst drunk people that doesn't involve sex.
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Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 03:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When
was the last time you were on a college campus? There's plenty that
occurs at 2am amongst drunk people that doesn't involve sex.
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Well obviously this is true and there is no defending anyone who is being charged with raping someone.
But for the most part, the idea is...
Drink Go to bar Drink More Find Girls Meet Girls Dance with girls Make out with girls Go home with girl
then of course cue the music...
well that's just me maybe
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:22 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:20 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When was the last time you were on a college campus?
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About 12 hours ago.
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You must not be observant then. Again, the point stands. There's plenty of drunken activity at 2am that does not involve sex.
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Are you fucking retarded? I know there's plenty to do. You usually
don't go back with a girl just to "hang out". At least I never did.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM) | Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type. |
I'd rather be the "friend" type than the callous dick you've shown yourself to be.
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So you're a fatty then?
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM) | Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type. |
This girl was asking to be raped? Yes. Women just love to be held against their will and violated. It's such a rush!
What a cocksucker you are.
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Don't put words in my mouth. If a girl brings a random guy back to her
place she's asking for trouble. It's not that hard to figure out.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:27 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM) | Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type. |
This girl was asking to be raped? Yes. Women just love to be held against their will and violated. It's such a rush!
What a cocksucker you are.
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Don't
put words in my mouth. If a girl brings a random guy back to her place
she's asking for trouble. It's not that hard to figure out.
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Don't put words in your mouth? "Asking for trouble" and "asking for it"
sounds like you think this girl was asking to be raped because she
brought someone back to her apartment.
I don't have to put the words in your mouth. They're already there, just in a very slightly hidden form.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:36 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:33 PM) |
But
NYPirate is sitting here automatically assuming that since a guy went
back to a girl's apartment at 2am, he's free to have sex with her. |
I'm not assuming "he's free to have sex with her" you dickless fuck. The guy's thinking he's going to get some.
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So just because the guy is "thinking" he's got the green light to land his plane on her landing strip, it's the girl's fault?
Whatever happened to "No" or "Not Tonight" or anything along those lines?
For
all we know, it might be consensual sex like Scott's attorney is
arguing. But if Scott forced himself upon this girl, it's certainly not
her fault.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:39 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:36 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:33 PM) |
But
NYPirate is sitting here automatically assuming that since a guy went
back to a girl's apartment at 2am, he's free to have sex with her. |
I'm not assuming "he's free to have sex with her" you dickless fuck. The guy's thinking he's going to get some.
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So just because the guy is "thinking" he's got the green light to land his plane on her landing strip, it's the girl's fault?
Whatever happened to "No" or "Not Tonight" or anything along those lines?
For
all we know, it might be consensual sex like Scott's attorney is
arguing. But if Scott forced himself upon this girl, it's certainly not
her fault.
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Getting raped is not her fault. She shouldn't have taken him back to her place, that's all.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:46 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:42 PM) | Getting raped is not her fault. She shouldn't have taken him back to her place, that's all. |
Again, we don't know why they went back to her apartment. Bars close at 2. This happened around 2.
She
could have simply said that they could keep drinking and partying
there. She has that right to continue her night as she sees fit.
What if by "going back to her apartment" it was Scott walking her back, forcing his way in, and raping her that way?
You're jumping to conclusions by arguing that she let Scott come in to the apartment and that it all started in there.
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You're jumping to conclusions by arguing she didn't.
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When
was the last time you were on a college campus? There's plenty that
occurs at 2am amongst drunk people that doesn't involve sex.
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Most of my college life didn't involve sex. NYPirate still lives in
that age where if a woman is up past midnight, she absolutely is
looking to get laid.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:52 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:46 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:42 PM) | Getting raped is not her fault. She shouldn't have taken him back to her place, that's all. |
Again, we don't know why they went back to her apartment. Bars close at 2. This happened around 2.
She
could have simply said that they could keep drinking and partying
there. She has that right to continue her night as she sees fit.
What if by "going back to her apartment" it was Scott walking her back, forcing his way in, and raping her that way?
You're jumping to conclusions by arguing that she let Scott come in to the apartment and that it all started in there.
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You're jumping to conclusions by arguing she didn't.
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You opened the can of worms first. I'm arguing the other side of things. You said on the very first page of this thread that:
QUOTE | All
I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your place
at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by inviting
him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
I've just been bringing up the other side of things throughout this whole deal.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:27 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM) | Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type. |
This girl was asking to be raped? Yes. Women just love to be held against their will and violated. It's such a rush!
What a cocksucker you are.
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Don't
put words in my mouth. If a girl brings a random guy back to her place
she's asking for trouble. It's not that hard to figure out.
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You are one dense fuck. The guy crossing the street at two AM is asking
for trouble too but he doesn't deserve to be crushed by the drunk
driver.
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 02:57 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:27 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM) | Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type. |
This girl was asking to be raped? Yes. Women just love to be held against their will and violated. It's such a rush!
What a cocksucker you are.
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Don't
put words in my mouth. If a girl brings a random guy back to her place
she's asking for trouble. It's not that hard to figure out.
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You
are one dense fuck. The guy crossing the street at two AM is asking for
trouble too but he doesn't deserve to be crushed by the drunk driver.
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did I say she deserved to get raped?
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QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:57 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:53 PM) | And I have a hard time believing that a forced entry into an on-campus apartment would go unnoticed. |
Forced
entry can be as simple as she opens the door to go after saying good
night, and he, the stronger football player, gets his hand on the door,
forces himself in, and commits the crime.
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Again, being an on-campus apartment and supposedly everyone coming home
from the bars, I find it hard to believe someone wouldn't notice a
forced entry.
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 02:57 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:27 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM) | Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type. |
This girl was asking to be raped? Yes. Women just love to be held against their will and violated. It's such a rush!
What a cocksucker you are.
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Don't
put words in my mouth. If a girl brings a random guy back to her place
she's asking for trouble. It's not that hard to figure out.
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You
are one dense fuck. The guy crossing the street at two AM is asking for
trouble too but he doesn't deserve to be crushed by the drunk driver.
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And that's just a stupid analogy.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:08 PM) | QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 02:57 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:27 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM) | Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type. |
This girl was asking to be raped? Yes. Women just love to be held against their will and violated. It's such a rush!
What a cocksucker you are.
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Don't
put words in my mouth. If a girl brings a random guy back to her place
she's asking for trouble. It's not that hard to figure out.
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You
are one dense fuck. The guy crossing the street at two AM is asking for
trouble too but he doesn't deserve to be crushed by the drunk driver.
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And that's just a stupid analogy.
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Why, he's out drinking late at night, when other people are drinking,
he's crossing a street where drunk drivers are, how is it different?
By
the way, exactly what are you saying about the girl and women in
general? Are you really saying that no women can enjoy themselves late
in the evening without sex. Are you saying that all women are the same?
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 03:12 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:08 PM) | QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 02:57 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:27 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:25 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:23 PM) | Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type. |
This girl was asking to be raped? Yes. Women just love to be held against their will and violated. It's such a rush!
What a cocksucker you are.
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Don't
put words in my mouth. If a girl brings a random guy back to her place
she's asking for trouble. It's not that hard to figure out.
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You
are one dense fuck. The guy crossing the street at two AM is asking for
trouble too but he doesn't deserve to be crushed by the drunk driver.
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And that's just a stupid analogy.
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Why,
he's out drinking late at night, when other people are drinking, he's
crossing a street where drunk drivers are, how is it different?
By
the way, exactly what are you saying about the girl and women in
general? Are you really saying that no women can enjoy themselves late
in the evening without sex. Are you saying that all women are the same?
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Sorry, but I see no relation from your analogy.
So now I comment on one situation and now I'm suddenly categorizing women? Nice spin. Are you Bill O'Reilly?
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:28 PM) | I'm standing by my opinion
If a girl is going to bring a random drunk guy back to her room by themselves then she's asking for trouble.
If you don't like my opinion tough shit.
Can any of you actually say it was a good decision bringing random drunk guy back to her place?
Would
you be happy with your daughter bringing back drunk guy to her place?
Would you say "It's ok, they probably just want to drink more"? |
Again, you're blaming the victim, just like my example, you would blame
the guy crossing the street when the potential for drunk drivers being
on the road is higher.
Bad decisions doesn't even begin to imply
that someone is asking for it. Perhaps she thought the guy was a nice
guy and had no intention of forcing himself on her. Perhaps she's just
young as such is prone to bad decisions. Nothing implies that she was
asking for it.
If I had a daughter, I would tell her to avoid
all situations that could cause her harm. But again, if this girl were
my daughter, I wouldn't accuse her of asking for it and I would not
place any blame on her. The victim is not to be blamed.
Finally, if I had a daughter, I would show her this thread. I would tell her to avoid any small minded doof like you.
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 03:38 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:28 PM) | I'm standing by my opinion
If a girl is going to bring a random drunk guy back to her room by themselves then she's asking for trouble.
If you don't like my opinion tough shit.
Can any of you actually say it was a good decision bringing random drunk guy back to her place?
Would
you be happy with your daughter bringing back drunk guy to her place?
Would you say "It's ok, they probably just want to drink more"? |
Again,
you're blaming the victim, just like my example, you would blame the
guy crossing the street when the potential for drunk drivers being on
the road is higher.
Bad decisions doesn't even begin to imply
that someone is asking for it. Perhaps she thought the guy was a nice
guy and had no intention of forcing himself on her. Perhaps she's just
young as such is prone to bad decisions. Nothing implies that she was
asking for it.
If I had a daughter, I would tell her to avoid
all situations that could cause her harm. But again, if this girl were
my daughter, I wouldn't accuse her of asking for it and I would not
place any blame on her. The victim is not to be blamed.
Finally, if I had a daughter, I would show her this thread. I would tell her to avoid any small minded doof like you.
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Small minded because I have a differing opinion? Ann Coulter fan are we?
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:40 PM) | QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 03:38 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:28 PM) | I'm standing by my opinion
If a girl is going to bring a random drunk guy back to her room by themselves then she's asking for trouble.
If you don't like my opinion tough shit.
Can any of you actually say it was a good decision bringing random drunk guy back to her place?
Would
you be happy with your daughter bringing back drunk guy to her place?
Would you say "It's ok, they probably just want to drink more"? |
Again,
you're blaming the victim, just like my example, you would blame the
guy crossing the street when the potential for drunk drivers being on
the road is higher.
Bad decisions doesn't even begin to imply
that someone is asking for it. Perhaps she thought the guy was a nice
guy and had no intention of forcing himself on her. Perhaps she's just
young as such is prone to bad decisions. Nothing implies that she was
asking for it.
If I had a daughter, I would tell her to avoid
all situations that could cause her harm. But again, if this girl were
my daughter, I wouldn't accuse her of asking for it and I would not
place any blame on her. The victim is not to be blamed.
Finally, if I had a daughter, I would show her this thread. I would tell her to avoid any small minded doof like you.
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Small minded because I have a differing opinion? Ann Coulter fan are we?
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Actually, Frantic Coulter would probably take your position. No your
small minded because you think a girl who may have been raped, was
askng for it.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:46 PM) | No, I'm not afraid to say she made a stupid decision. Fuck this PC shit. Did she deserve to get raped? Hell no. |
Dolt! You weren't saying she made a stupid, you said she was asking for it. There is a big difference.
Don't blame PC. You said something extraordinarily stupid. Own up to it.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:23 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When
was the last time you were on a college campus? There's plenty that
occurs at 2am amongst drunk people that doesn't involve sex.
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Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type.
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I think of all the idiotic statements in this thread by NYPirate, this is the worst (but honestly, the competition was stiff).
By
saying "I guess you're the 'friend' type" he seems to be insulting Herm
. . . but what is the insult . . . "Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah
. . . Herm's not a rapist"??
Jesus Herm, you're such a fucking
pussy . . . if a girl asks you back to her room, she's asking for it .
. . if you don't score, no matter what the circumstances after you've
been asked back to her room, you're worthy of our ridicule.
Rape her if you have to, but don't come back without your dick wet.
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QUOTE (Ma13tt0 @ Oct 12 2007, 03:49 PM) | What did you guys think of the Natalie Holloway thing? The girl that went missing in Aruba?
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As a parent, I thought her parents made stupid decision to let her go
with a group 100+ teenagers, with only 7 chaperons. I don't think she
deserved her fate, whatever it is, nor do I think the parents should
suffer the loss of their child. Even though it appears that both the
girl and the parents made bad decisions, the sole blame for what
happened belongs to those who perpetrated the crime.
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QUOTE (uberbiermensch @ Oct 12 2007, 03:52 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 04:46 PM) | No, I'm not afraid to say she made a stupid decision. Fuck this PC shit. Did she deserve to get raped? Hell no. |
Yeah,
what she did wasn't very smart. But I see no difference between saying
she was "asking for it" and "deserved it" in this context.
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Well I guess the interpretations of "asking for it" differ. "It"
meaning nothing good can come from letting a random guy in your place
at 2:00 am. I just love how you fucks spin things.
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QUOTE (cogitobsw @ Oct 12 2007, 03:53 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:23 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When
was the last time you were on a college campus? There's plenty that
occurs at 2am amongst drunk people that doesn't involve sex.
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Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type.
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I think of all the idiotic statements in this thread by NYPirate, this is the worst (but honestly, the competition was stiff).
By
saying "I guess you're the 'friend' type" he seems to be insulting Herm
. . . but what is the insult . . . "Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah
. . . Herm's not a rapist"??
Jesus Herm, you're such a fucking
pussy . . . if a girl asks you back to her room, she's asking for it .
. . if you don't score, no matter what the circumstances after you've
been asked back to her room, you're worthy of our ridicule.
Rape her if you have to, but don't come back without your dick wet.
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No herm doesn't understand that most drunk guys think with their dicks
at 2:00 am. That's my point. If you say you believe otherwise you're a
liar.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:59 PM) | QUOTE (cogitobsw @ Oct 12 2007, 03:53 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:23 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When
was the last time you were on a college campus? There's plenty that
occurs at 2am amongst drunk people that doesn't involve sex.
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Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type.
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I think of all the idiotic statements in this thread by NYPirate, this is the worst (but honestly, the competition was stiff).
By
saying "I guess you're the 'friend' type" he seems to be insulting Herm
. . . but what is the insult . . . "Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah
. . . Herm's not a rapist"??
Jesus Herm, you're such a fucking
pussy . . . if a girl asks you back to her room, she's asking for it .
. . if you don't score, no matter what the circumstances after you've
been asked back to her room, you're worthy of our ridicule.
Rape her if you have to, but don't come back without your dick wet.
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No
herm doesn't understand that most drunk guys think with their dicks at
2:00 am. That's my point. If you say you believe otherwise you're a
liar.
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So now that you've categorized all women who state out past a certain
time of the evening, now you've just said that most men who drink
follow their cock compass.
You have quite a grasp of human nature.
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 04:02 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:59 PM) | QUOTE (cogitobsw @ Oct 12 2007, 03:53 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 02:23 PM) | QUOTE (herrmorpheus @ Oct 12 2007, 02:18 PM) | QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:16 PM) |
All I know is if you're a girl and you ask a drunk guy back to your
place at 2:00 am, what the fuck do you think he wants to do? And by
inviting him, aren't you insuating that he's going to score? |
When
was the last time you were on a college campus? There's plenty that
occurs at 2am amongst drunk people that doesn't involve sex.
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Of course there is, but when a girl invites a random guy back to her place she's asking for it.
I guess you're the "friend" type.
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I think of all the idiotic statements in this thread by NYPirate, this is the worst (but honestly, the competition was stiff).
By
saying "I guess you're the 'friend' type" he seems to be insulting Herm
. . . but what is the insult . . . "Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah
. . . Herm's not a rapist"??
Jesus Herm, you're such a fucking
pussy . . . if a girl asks you back to her room, she's asking for it .
. . if you don't score, no matter what the circumstances after you've
been asked back to her room, you're worthy of our ridicule.
Rape her if you have to, but don't come back without your dick wet.
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No
herm doesn't understand that most drunk guys think with their dicks at
2:00 am. That's my point. If you say you believe otherwise you're a
liar.
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So
now that you've categorized all women who state out past a certain time
of the evening, now you've just said that most men who drink follow
their cock compass.
You have quite a grasp of human nature.
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College
guys asshole! And I never categorized women. Show me where I
categorized all women. This all about my perception of college kids.
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QUOTE (oblongatta @ Oct 12 2007, 04:06 PM) | someone in this thread is a shithead |
That can't be me, I'm the one who has been consistently called an
asshole. I may add, its a term with which I've never disagreed.
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QUOTE (donwengert4life @ Oct 12 2007, 04:26 PM) | If he forced herself on this woman, then obviously there is no excuse. No one "asks" to be raped.
However, the Duke lacrosse case should be enough to convince people not to rush to judgment before the facts are in. |
Agreed. None of my posts are meant to imply that Scott is guilty of anything.
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QUOTE (NYPirate @ Oct 12 2007, 03:28 PM) | I'm standing by my opinion
If a girl is going to bring a random drunk guy back to her room by themselves then she's asking for trouble.
If you don't like my opinion tough shit.
Can any of you actually say it was a good decision bringing random drunk guy back to her place?
Would
you be happy with your daughter bringing back drunk guy to her place?
Would you say "It's ok, they probably just want to drink more"? |
Lady and Gentlemen, I give you, as Asshat of the Month...... NYP!!!!!!!!!
Laadeeedadee, Whoooopeee, Hoooraaay......
And
let me tell you, you guys have got it all wrong. Its not NYP's
ridiculously stupid comments about girls asking for it, or black
quarterbacks, or whatever other stupid threads he has jumped into dick
first. Its because of the first sentence above. No matter how stupid a
post he makes, he never backs down, and he argues with anyone who
questions his stupid post.
Relentless stupidity puts regular stupidity to shame. And its what qualifies you as an asshat.
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While NYPIrate is a fucking assclown, and shouldn't have ever used the
phrases "asking for it" or "deserved it," but he does have kind of a
point.
Much like not hanging out in East Liberty if you're
white, girls should never invite guys back to their rooms at 2 am after
1. a night of drinking and 2. meeting said guy in the bar. Said conduct
can reasonably be interpreted as "i want to be more than just friends
with you herrm" (though I doubt those words have ever been spoken).
Now,
I'm not one to ever force myself on a girl, but I've definitely gone
home with girls post-bar and there was only one thing on both of our
minds. At the very least, there was at least some making out, but
usually a lot more. Now, this is not untypical. Girls aren't stupid.
They know what they're implying when they ask you to come home with
them. If they didn't want at least *something* to happen, they
shouldn't ask, or they are potentially putting theirselves in a
compromising position.
That being said, no one knows the
details. Maybe she came home with him and only wanted to hook up with
no sex, and when he got on top of her, he wouldn't stop when she said
that things had gone as far as she wanted, and he did rape her. Maybe
she passed out and he had sex with her (which is totally uncalled for,
and also, is rape).
Then again, maybe she brought him home, had
sex with him, and then got pissed at herself for doing it, and figured
that because she was drunk, she would be absolved of it and possibly
make some money by suing the school and the football program for not
providing a safe on campus environment or for endangering her safety by
letting someone into the school that would do stuff like that.
As
I said, I'm really interested in the details here. Until I find out
that he did something egregious, i'm going to err on Scott's side
because that situation usually indicates she wanted physical intimacy
to occur, whether Herrm and his
Monopoly-playing-and-knitting-mittens-at-2-am female friends want to
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QUOTE (GoBucs21 @ Oct 12 2007, 06:05 PM) | QUOTE (monarch0 @ Oct 12 2007, 05:03 PM) | All I said is that women are irrational thinkers and they speak in generalities. |
Does your post imply that you are a woman?
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QUOTE (penguin8334 @ Oct 12 2007, 06:12 PM) | QUOTE (monarch0 @ Oct 12 2007, 02:58 PM) |
EDIT: I jsut talked to my female friend that just graduated Pitt two
years ago. She loves football so I told her about the Austin
Scott thing. I asked her, if she had ever brought a guy back to
her house after the bar at 2 am and NOT intended something to
happen. Answer: Never. Expanded answer: "That whole
situation sounds like she's making it up. A girl doesn't bring a guy
back to her place after the bar if she doesn't want something to
happen" |
But what if the girl changed her mind.
Or had second thoughts.
Or began to sober up.
I'm
sorry, as it may not be such a good idea for women to bring strange
drunk men back to their apartments, it's not an open invitation to the
men to have their way with them .
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I completely agree. I said as much in my first post. If she had passed
out, or he kept going after she said no, lock the fucker up.
I
just said I'm holding judgment until the facts come out, but based on
the situation, I'd say its more likely that she wanted it to happen,
based on the facts that are out now. If he had broke into her dorm and
did this, it'd be different. It sounds like he was invited back after
the bar, so that changes the situation.
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QUOTE (monarch0 @ Oct 12 2007, 03:14 PM) |
I completely agree. I said as much in my first post. If she had passed
out, or he kept going after she said no, lock the fucker up.
I
just said I'm holding judgment until the facts come out, but based on
the situation, I'd say its more likely that she wanted it to happen,
based on the facts that are out now. If he had broke into her dorm and
did this, it'd be different. It sounds like he was invited back after
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Since I know nothing about this particular case, I was speaking in generalities.
Which I guess makes me a woman.
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Who would have thought, that on the day Austin Scott was charged with
rape we'd have a thread with 100 replies... yet the thread isn't about A. Austin Scott B. Penn St. C. Joe Paterno God bless MGP
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